james jones may now be on trade block

[rbaloha1]

It would be nice if someone offered a trade. Unsure of JJ's trade value given the contract.

[Brandon494]

I'd rather have Jordy over JJ. He's definitely the more consistent of the two. He might even be more athletic.

I think Nelson is the better WR also but not by much. Jordy is just an inconsistent as Jones but people like to forget about his drops because they aren't for big plays like Nelson.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I think Nelson is the better WR also but not by much. Jordy is just an inconsistent as Jones but people like to forget about his drops because they aren't for big plays like Nelson.

Don't get me wrong, they are both good assets to have, but if the JJ signing makes Jordy expendable in the eyes of the front office that would be a bad mistake.

[3irty1]

Ha, you guys. There are only so many balls to be caught and I don't know if you've noticed, but someone has caught one on nearly every passing play. The offense is hitting on all cylinders right now, Jones is on a field full of other weapons. Just because Rodgers is moving the ball effectively with other guys doesn't mean there is something wrong with Jones. Hell Finley only had 50 some yards, despite being a featured part of the offense... is his star fading as well?

Also we all know how the McCarthy offense works by now. It changes drastically three or four times a season. Last year at this time we'd go whole drives with 3 TE's and Jordy Nelson on the field, it wasn't considered an insult to Jennings. Jones will have his yards by seasons end. He's a player.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nelson was as inconsistent catching the ball last year as Jones, but the prior two years Nelson had a much lower drop rate. I tend to think of it as a bad year. We've been arguing about Jones' hands for several years (he makes tough catches but then drops the easy ones), so it's been a problem for a lot longer. Nelson also looks noticeably more athletic than Jones this year. I think Nelson is starting to fully realize his potential--while Jones might have maxed his out. I've always thought Nelson had more upside, and I think that even more so now. Of course, I'm willing to give Jones a break because he's dealing with an injury.

[vince]

Randall Cobb will have some games where he's not a major part of the offense too I'd expect, but generally, with every game played it will become more obvious than it already is that James Jones - injury or not - is the #5 receiver on this team. Cobb is faster, more athletic, has better hands, is way more dynamic in space, and just about everything else you want to say about a receiver's skillset except height and weight. The only other thing he doesn't have on Jones is experience, but he also spews desire, determination, dedication, and coachability, so it'll be a short time before Cobb has the offense figured out.

There's nothing wrong with James Jones except what we already know about him. He's an average NFL receiver. Randall Cobb is a special player who is only going to get better, health permitting.

#5 receivers don't get a ton of opportunities overall. They may get more in Green Bay than anywhere else, but even at that the Packers soon won't want to give the ball to James Jones when you have the opportunity to get it to someone more reliable and explosive. I doubt if they will trade him (I'm not sure there's a trade partner out there.) because he's good insurance against injury to Nelson, but I hope he's not sulking about not getting opportunities while Nelson and Cobb are getting better. That'll only set him back even further.

[bobblehead]

If someone is motivated, they can dig up the thread(s) where people were questioning Jennings last year due to his lack of early productivity.

[3irty1]

Jones is a different mold than the other guys on this team. Jones doesn't have the straight-line speed to be a consistent deep threat like Jennings or Jordy. But even though he's smaller than Jordy he plays much bigger. When was the last time you saw Jordy go up and get one? Also Jones is crazy slippery for his size. He was often the target of WR screens and such last year because of his ability to make people miss. Jordy is a better blocker, and a half-decent deep threat but I think the superiority stops there.

[pbmax]

Jones is a different mold than the other guys on this team. Jones doesn't have the straight-line speed to be a consistent deep threat like Jennings or Jordy. But even though he's smaller than Jordy he plays much bigger. When was the last time you saw Jordy go up and get one? Also Jones is crazy slippery for his size. He was often the target of WR screens and such last year because of his ability to make people miss. Jordy is a better blocker, and a half-decent deep threat but I think the superiority stops there.

I don't know about that 3irty1, Jones gets a step deep more often versus DBs than Jordy. But Jordy does seem to be more open (better route? where Rodgers expects him?) in the recent past and thus a pass to him is much less of adventure against coverage than it used to be.

[rbaloha1]

I don't know about that 3irty1, Jones gets a step deep more often versus DBs than Jordy. But Jordy does seem to be more open (better route? where Rodgers expects him?) in the recent past and thus a pass to him is much less of adventure against coverage than it used to be.

Jordy is sneaky fast. Surprises the brother dbs. Good route runner with instincts.

JJ is a slight concern but expect a bounce back. If this conversation is relevant in week 8 then its a problem.

[Bossman641]

it was one week. Last year at this time people were ready to run Hawk out of town after he played a handful of snaps against the Eagles. If he's still only getting 1 target/game a quarter of the way into the season then I will be concerned.

[Smidgeon]

Randall Cobb will have some games where he's not a major part of the offense too I'd expect, but generally, with every game played it will become more obvious than it already is that James Jones - injury or not - is the #5 receiver on this team. Cobb is faster, more athletic, has better hands, is way more dynamic in space, and just about everything else you want to say about a receiver's skillset except height and weight. The only other thing he doesn't have on Jones is experience, but he also spews desire, determination, dedication, and coachability, so it'll be a short time before Cobb has the offense figured out.

There's nothing wrong with James Jones except what we already know about him. He's an average NFL receiver. Randall Cobb is a special player who is only going to get better, health permitting.

#5 receivers don't get a ton of opportunities overall. They may get more in Green Bay than anywhere else, but even at that the Packers soon won't want to give the ball to James Jones when you have the opportunity to get it to someone more reliable and explosive. I doubt if they will trade him (I'm not sure there's a trade partner out there.) because he's good insurance against injury to Nelson, but I hope he's not sulking about not getting opportunities while Nelson and Cobb are getting better. That'll only set him back even further.

Cobb also doesn't have Jones' strength and size.

[Upnorth]

Jones is a different mold than the other guys on this team. Jones doesn't have the straight-line speed to be a consistent deep threat like Jennings or Jordy. But even though he's smaller than Jordy he plays much bigger. When was the last time you saw Jordy go up and get one? Also Jones is crazy slippery for his size. He was often the target of WR screens and such last year because of his ability to make people miss. Jordy is a better blocker, and a half-decent deep threat but I think the superiority stops there.

I have always liked Jones playing speed. I have no clue what his 40 is, but he plays fast, and that seems to be one of his big strenghts. If his concentration goes up he could be a big play machine, and big plays break a defence.
I think that in a few games this year Jones will be our #1 or #2 option, but that also goes for driver and nelson. They each have a role and MM will expoit other D's with our various WR's as he see's fit.

[vince]

it was one week. Last year at this time people were ready to run Hawk out of town after he played a handful of snaps against the Eagles. If he's still only getting 1 target/game a quarter of the way into the season then I will be concerned.

I don't understand what there is to be concerned about. The Packers offensive weaponry has never been better.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I get squeemish when a black athlete is "placed on the trading block"

not being funny or critical, its just a connection that pops in my head