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I watched much of that game, and as someone who watched that game I can assure you that call had MAJOR implications. And as someone that watched that game I take it into consideration when evaluating his performance in the game. There is no valid reason not to consider it.Originally posted by pbmax View PostBad calls happen all the time, but no one looks at each QB (or every game) that way. Of course its premature to judge Newton, but this hindsight is just a plain waste of time. In fact, its worse than the hindsight of someone who watched the game, its hindsight by press release.
The press release validates what my eyes told me.
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there is one massive difference between cam and big ben. big ben knew how to run a pro style offense. cam has only ever run a pop warner style offense. he's never had to read defenses and adjust to them
cam's gonna shit himself tomorrow trying to figure out what dom is doing out there
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Major implications? For his career? Did the bad call then allow him to throw the ball in a manner he will not be able to repeat at sometime?Originally posted by Scott Campbell View PostI watched much of that game, and as someone who watched that game I can assure you that call had MAJOR implications. And as someone that watched that game I take it into consideration when evaluating his performance in the game. There is no valid reason not to consider it.
The press release validates what my eyes told me.
And did your eyes tell you the performance was a fluke of bad calls, lucky passes and bad pass defense? Or does the kid have some talent?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I hope you are right. I would be happy to derail Newton for a week then let him surprise others.Originally posted by red View Postthere is one massive difference between cam and big ben. big ben knew how to run a pro style offense. cam has only ever run a pop warner style offense. he's never had to read defenses and adjust to them
cam's gonna shit himself tomorrow trying to figure out what dom is doing out thereBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I think he means for the game - without that call, Newton has 330 yards - still a great performance, but not one that people are gushing over.Originally posted by pbmax View PostMajor implications? For his career? Did the bad call then allow him to throw the ball in a manner he will not be able to repeat at sometime?
And did your eyes tell you the performance was a fluke of bad calls, lucky passes and bad pass defense? Or does the kid have some talent?
Over the course of a career, calls come and go, but over the course of single game, one play can make the difference.
What if Henne had thrown a pass that had gone for 89 yards, instead of Brady? Then Brady has 427yds, Henne has 506.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Yeah, but that is the point of my complaint. Regardless of the validity of the call, Newton showed he has the talent to play in the NFL. 442 yards or 330 yards, he has it. And one call or one throw that theoretically should not have been made doesn't change what he showed. Henne has previous demonstrated he does not possess the talent or mind to succeed in the NFL.Originally posted by Guiness View PostI think he means for the game - without that call, Newton has 330 yards - still a great performance, but not one that people are gushing over.
Over the course of a career, calls come and go, but over the course of single game, one play can make the difference.
What if Henne had thrown a pass that had gone for 89 yards, instead of Brady? Then Brady has 427yds, Henne has 506.
Its complaining about the wind in a hurricane. Seeing trees but no forest. In other words, missing the point.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Nice summary. Its understandable if Newton's performance was in pre season and the board was skeptical (i.e. Ryan Leaf and Joey Harrington). But it was a regular season game.Originally posted by pbmax View PostYeah, but that is the point of my complaint. Regardless of the validity of the call, Newton showed he has the talent to play in the NFL. 442 yards or 330 yards, he has it. And one call or one throw that theoretically should not have been made doesn't change what he showed. Henne has previous demonstrated he does not possess the talent or mind to succeed in the NFL.
Its complaining about the wind in a hurricane. Seeing trees but no forest. In other words, missing the point.
If Cam has a good performance against the packers -- what will the board say -- TW was hurt/out, blah blah, Capers did not have enough tape, heat, humidity, etc.
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Where would Brady be today if the correct ruling was made on Woodson's fumble?Originally posted by Guiness View PostI think he means for the game - without that call, Newton has 330 yards - still a great performance, but not one that people are gushing over.
Over the course of a career, calls come and go, but over the course of single game, one play can make the difference.
What if Henne had thrown a pass that had gone for 89 yards, instead of Brady? Then Brady has 427yds, Henne has 506.
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