NFC North Quarterback Ratings 2011

[denverYooper]

Cutler's rating has generally been mid-to-hi 80s. Except his first year with the Bears, when 26 INTs dropped it down to 76.8. He's right on his lifetime avg of 84.3.

He was 88.5, 88.1, and 86.0 playing behind a good line in Denver and with some pretty good receivers (Marshall, Walker, Scheffler) and the Teflon Don's running game.

He's been worse with Chicago to this point and I will not be surprised to see his numbers settle in the lower 80s this year without Olsen to throw to, unless someone else in that receiving corps steps up.

[AtlPackFan]

pbmax, I've seen Fallon in movies, I don't think he's an actor either.

[Joemailman]

Isn't it PBmax who calls the cover 2 Stubby's kryptonite? I hope we can get Jimmy Olsen (not Greg Olsen) to remove the kryptonite before Stubby arrives this week.

I would love to take credit for it, but at this point, I probably would get it wrong.

I thought it was Waldo who came up with the kryptonite comment.

[Joemailman]

Week 3

Aaron Rodgers 120.9 (Last week 126.4) 1st overall
Matt Stafford 110.7 (Last week 112.0) 3rd overall
Jay Cutler 82.4 (Last week 84.1) 19th overall
Donovan McNabb 78.1 (Last week 71.3) 26th overall

Rodgers and Stafford continue to be elite despite some slight slippage in numbers.
Cutler and McNabb settling into mediocrity territory.

Week 4:

Rodgers vs. Denver
McNabb at Kansas City
Cutler vs. Carolina
Stafford at Dallas

[Upnorth]

So I predict that Stafford plays average against the dallas d and his rate goes down. Cutler will stay about the same. McNadd will go up, if he can't play well against the KC d the season is over in Min. Rodgers will improve a point or two, but will have to settle for low the 120's as a rating.

[mraynrand]

Isn't it PBmax who calls the cover 2 Stubby's kryptonite? I hope we can get Jimmy Olsen (not Greg Olsen) to remove the kryptonite before Stubby arrives this week.

I would love to take credit for it, but at this point, I probably would get it wrong.

I thought it was Waldo who came up with the kryptonite comment.

Looks like Jimmy Olsen got Lovie to start out in cover 3. Thanks Jimmy! Stubby beat the kryptonite as well, with a steady dose of run calls. Too bad Grant got hurt early or I think Stubby would have ridden him exclusively over Starks. Stubby should get a lot of credit for the win at Chicago.

[mraynrand]

Week 3

Aaron Rodgers 120.9 (Last week 126.4) 1st overall
Matt Stafford 110.7 (Last week 112.0) 3rd overall
Jay Cutler 82.4 (Last week 84.1) 19th overall
Donovan McNabb 78.1 (Last week 71.3) 26th overall

Rodgers and Stafford continue to be elite despite some slight slippage in numbers.
Cutler and McNabb settling into mediocrity territory.

Week 4:

Rodgers vs. Denver
McNabb at Kansas City
Cutler vs. Carolina
Stafford at Dallas

I've been watching McNabb pretty carefully this year. I really think there is something to the stamina issue. He looks whipped every fourth quarter. He's slinging more than throwing and as the game wears on, his accuracy - not so great to begin with - really starts to diminish. Key to beating Minnesota is to pound McNabb early. Give up the 100 yards and a TD to Peterson, but make sure McNabb is exhausted as quickly as possible. Then you can almost dare them to pass.

[pbmax]

I've been watching McNabb pretty carefully this year. I really think there is something to the stamina issue. He looks whipped every fourth quarter. He's slinging more than throwing and as the game wears on, his accuracy - not so great to begin with - really starts to diminish. Key to beating Minnesota is to pound McNabb early. Give up the 100 yards and a TD to Peterson, but make sure McNabb is exhausted as quickly as possible. Then you can almost dare them to pass.

I read he had a rib injury in the Patriots Super Bowl caused by a hit early in the game. But I agree, very early in games he seems to be spent.

[mraynrand]

I read he had a rib injury in the Patriots Super Bowl caused by a hit early in the game.

There's something to that 'beat the stuffing out of the opposition' strategy that works - at least up to a point. Was watching that Jerome Brown/Reggie White Football life program and people were pretty intimidated by that one-two punch. Man did those two abuse quarterbacks playing in Philly. I would not want to have been sacked on that asphalt parking lot field at Veteran's Stadium. Painful.

[channtheman]

There's something to that 'beat the stuffing out of the opposition' strategy that works - at least up to a point. Was watching that Jerome Brown/Reggie White Football life program and people were pretty intimidated by that one-two punch. Man did those two abuse quarterbacks playing in Philly. I would not want to have been sacked on that asphalt parking lot field at Veteran's Stadium. Painful.

And back then the NFL wasn't protecting QB's like they are today. Imagine the (now) late hits and helmet to helmet hits that must have occurred.

[pbmax]

And back then the NFL wasn't protecting QB's like they are today. Imagine the (now) late hits and helmet to helmet hits that must have occurred.

This is the part of the story that is hard to remember. Long before concussion discussion was all the rage, there weren't that many players trying to knock players out with shots to the head. Look what Charles Martin and Turkey Jones did, they grabbed the QB and tried to pile drive them through the turf.

During the White and Brown era (and prior to that in the 80s) the focus was on multiple players taking shots to the QB. Which led to the "in the grasp" rule, which was controversial in its day. A form of that rule still exists. And at the time, there was the same bleating they were trying to turn the game into soccer and that the league should put a dress on the QB.

Peter King had a piece last year on how the hitting in the game has changed, from form tackling to kill shots. His source was from the League Office and I don't remember the name but it was a former player or coach. They said that if you watch film of other eras, there were far fewer head shots than there are today.

The game evolved; rules changed and techniques evolved. With an emphasis on putting a hat on the ball, the obvious consequence was that more hits with the top of the helmet would occur.

Packer fans must remember Chuck Cecil, whose kill shots landed him on the cover of Sports Illustrated around 1989, 90 or so. He was the exception at the time and the reason was obvious. Every observer knew Cecil was a limited player who if he missed his target, was useless.

It used to be that making a receiver pay for going across the middle meant getting clobbered by a shoulder or arm or two players at once. Now, its accepted that some DB is coming in like Cecil, Darius or Ryan Clark and hitting with the head first.

The real twisted thing is this: the one weapon the league had to combat this kind of recklessness was intensive coaching. Coaching and practicing how to form tackle. With the developments of the last 30 years and the new CBA, there is far less of that now. And the better helmets get, the more they will get used to bring down ballcarriers.

[Guiness]

Scud Cecil's strongpoint was not sanity!

There is one video of him on Youtube making a pretty vicious tackle of a Bears RB. Watch him after the play is over!

[pbmax]

That was actually one of his better ones. At least that guy had the ball and went down, Chuck didn't miss or glance off.

Who was #59 that got blown to smithereens by the fullback #25?

[esoxx]

That was actually one of his better ones. At least that guy had the ball and went down, Chuck didn't miss or glance off.

Who was #59 that got blown to smithereens by the fullback #25?

John Anderson

[Upnorth]

I am looking forward to the new stats for rodgers, what a game he had.