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Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
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is it an actual rule now? So, pretty close to the treatment punters get.--
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What exactly is the rule? You can't hit QB's after they have released the ball? I can understand flagging someone for taking 2 steps after the ball is out, launching at the QB, or for driving the QB into the ground. None of those was the case. There was absolutely no chance for Harper to pull up. If that was roughing than you might as well make it illegal to touch the QB.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostGo PACKComment
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ya, they are calling roughing the passer like roughing the punterOriginally posted by Guiness View PostComment
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I don't know how the rule reads, but they are consistently calling ANY tackle of the QB after the ball leaves his hand as roughing. Almost every game it seems to happen.Originally posted by Bossman641 View PostComment
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Vick would like to take issue, but his concussion is slowing things down. The refs don't know what to call.
Its now such a fine line that it will breakdown like holding and PI call among crews, where there is a wide discrepancy between units.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Vick's concussion was caused by his own offensive tackle so no flag. Mabye they could have ejected himOriginally posted by pbmax View Post
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Ball was gone as ATL DL threw Vick into his OT.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostVick's concussion was caused by his own offensive tackle so no flag. Mabye they could have ejected himBut Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
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League fines $40,000. ATL coach says hit was legal.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
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This is why Goodell is a tool and stooge of television. Not the Networks who he bosses around like Augusta National, but of incessant replay and PR.Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
The reason (I give them credit for admitting it) for the penalty:Maclin was not defenseless and he was not in a defenseless posture because of the catch. He turned away from the coming contact and shrank, putting himself in harms way. How can the defender prevent this? And what is to prevent any other receiver from doing this crouch posture when getting hit?The league said Robinson violated Rule 12, Section 2, Article 9 (a) (2) of the playing rules, which states: "It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture."
The rule notes that players in a defenseless posture include "a receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner."
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1YVsCw7GH
If they had fined him for leading with his head and making contact with the other players head (which, perversely is not against the rules for runners) then it would be hard to argue the facts. But this is fitting a rule to a situation in which it doesn't apply.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Was the ball out of Ryan's hand when he was horsecollared Sunday night and ended up doing the splits?Comment
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Not sure about horsecollar there, but he had thrown it before he was driven/pushed to turf. However, he knew he was going down, which is why he let fly with an obvious throw to no one.Originally posted by Pugger View PostBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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well, this is a little nit-picky, but I didn't see the shove on Vick being so forceful, although he did push Vick into harm's way. It was the Offensive lineman who inadvertently delivered the blow that caused the concusion.Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
maybe you are right that the Atlanta guy should have been penalized, not sure. The axe I'm grinding is a different case, where the QB gets hit by a legal tackle just as he releases the ball.Comment
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If I remember right the dude had him wrapped up and was just taking him down. Wasnt even looking up. The OL wasnt even in the way. He got pushed back by a DL right at the exact same time and turned around when he saw the ball had been thrown. That is when vick got swung into/smacked uppercut style into the OLs torso.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostComment
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thanks for that clarification, Perry Mason. maybe I should say Pendejo MasonComment
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Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
Apparently the league has notified the Saints that the call was incorrect.
METAIRIE, La. - New Orleans Saints strong safety Roman Harper says the NFL has notified the team that game officials were wrong to throw a flag for Harper's hard hit on Chicago quarterback Jay Cutler.
The flag flew moments after the quarterback threw an incomplete pass in the first half of New Orleans' 30-13 victory over the Bears last Sunday. The call on third-and-6 extended what turned out to be Chicago's lone touchdown drive of the game.
"When I saw the flag. I couldn't believe it. Cutler went to begging for it and they gave it to him," Harper said. "The bad thing is they got points off of it."
Harper credited Saints coaches for telling him to forget about the flag and remain aggressive. The Saints continued to blitz relentlessly and wound up sacking Cutler six times, with Harper getting two sacks and a forced fumble.
"Pretty much as soon as the play was over, I think coach (Sean) Payton called timeout and really got after the ref," Harper said. "The coaches were like, 'Keep playing. Don't worry about it. That was a [bad] call. Just keep balling and don't worry about that."'
Conversations between the NFL's officiating department and the clubs are confidential, and the league had no comment on Harper's claim.--
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