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  • #61
    Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
    Shut up!
    I propose a Bretsky whammy on this injury bug!
    The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
    Vince Lombardi

    "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
      This f'ing sucks. I have a bad feeling about this. Two of my favorite Packers went out with neck injuries (Tim Lewis, Sterling Sharpe), and they never made it back. Nick is one of my favorite 3 or 4 Packers. I'm going to miss watching him fly around making big plays.
      I've been feeling the same way. The fact that they've ruled him out for the season before the diagnosis is even complete pretty much assures it's serious.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #63
        Well out for the season has to mean surgery and recovery. I've heard that it has something to do with his disks which isn't good. If this happened to me I'm sure they'd try to fuse vertebrae together. Hopefully there is some magical alternative that they save for elite athletes.
        70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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        • #64
          Weird Twitter coverage. Both Mr and Mrs Collins Tweeted their thanks to everyone and said Nick was coming home. No mention of bad news, at least as retweeted by my follow list of reporters.

          That was 7 and 9 hours prior to this post. Then at 5 hours before this post, McCarthy news conference. They must have known, no?

          Would the team have waited until he touched down in GB to deliver the news?
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
            Well out for the season has to mean surgery and recovery. I've heard that it has something to do with his disks which isn't good. If this happened to me I'm sure they'd try to fuse vertebrae together. Hopefully there is some magical alternative that they save for elite athletes.
            He is seeing a specialist in New York and his agent said the suspect is a disc problem. But no stenosis.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              He is seeing a specialist in New York and his agent said the suspect is a disc problem. But no stenosis.
              Was Sharpe's injury stenosis? I know Murphy was but I thought stenosis was more of something that you are born with, not something that happens to you.
              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                Was Sharpe's injury stenosis? I know Murphy was but I thought stenosis was more of something that you are born with, not something that happens to you.
                I think it was a complicating factor but the injury itself was something else. And yes, you either have it or you don't, its not something inflicted by trauma. But if you have it, it makes reinjury more likely since the spinal column will be weaker or less flexible.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #68
                  It's bad enough that he's out for the year, but if it's career ending, tragic. The fact that they can't rule out that it isn't career ending isn't reassuring. Collins has been so productive and that pick-6 in the Super Bowl is in the top echelon of great Packer moments. He's always taken a positive outlook and he and his family should be taken care of. Sucks when this happens to a great player in the prime of his career.

                  It's tough to even think about it, but the team has to be able to move forward, and Nick will be there inspiring them on. Fortunately for us Peprah has proven to be a reliable safety, particularly in run support.

                  Hopefully he's not done, but if he is, he's a Packer Hall of Famer and a big part of what turned out to be a special team that made a once-in-a-lifetime run to a championship. Not many people can say that.

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                  • #69
                    Sharpe had a looseness between two vertebrae.

                    http://articles.philly.com/1994-12-2...terling-sharpe

                    Sterling Sharpe, the Green Bay Packers' Pro Bowl receiver, will miss the playoffs with a career-threatening neck abnormality, the team said yesterday.

                    Sharpe sustained "stinger" nerve injuries in each of the last two games and missed practice Tuesday so he could be examined by a specialist in Indianapolis.

                    Team physician Patrick McKenzie and trainer Pepper Burris said the injuries resulted from looseness between the top two vertebrae in Sharpe's neck.

                    The condition was gradual, and displayed itself Dec. 18 against Atlanta, when Sharpe's head snapped back while he was blocking safety Brad Edwards.

                    Sharpe must undergo surgery to fuse the two vertebrae, McKenzie said - a

                    procedure that would be necessary whether or not he plays football again. It will take eight months for Sharpe to recover from the procedure, which has yet to be scheduled.

                    The team and Sharpe will decide then whether he should play again.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #70
                      was that Tim Lewis who had to quit after a couple years? ITs going to happen from time to time.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                        was that Tim Lewis who had to quit after a couple years? ITs going to happen from time to time.
                        But why does it have to happen to the really good ones?
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Partial View Post
                          Leads me to believe they found something they didn't want to find, a pre-existing condition that could potentially limit his career.
                          Maybe he can join one of those high risk insurance pools.
                          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                            This f'ing sucks. I have a bad feeling about this. Two of my favorite Packers went out with neck injuries (Tim Lewis, Sterling Sharpe), and they never made it back. Nick is one of my favorite 3 or 4 Packers. I'm going to miss watching him fly around making big plays.
                            If you Google Tim Lewis Injury, Harvey's post above is the 2nd entry on the list right below Tim Lewis' wikipedia entry. We've come so far.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #74
                              wow. I just googled "clueless numbskull" and skinbasket's post just came up! This internet thing is moving faster and faster.

                              (only kidding, Skinbasket, I'm sure you know what a high risk pool is all about.)

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                Sharpe had a looseness between two vertebrae.

                                http://articles.philly.com/1994-12-2...terling-sharpe

                                Sterling Sharpe, the Green Bay Packers' Pro Bowl receiver, will miss the playoffs with a career-threatening neck abnormality, the team said yesterday.

                                Sharpe sustained "stinger" nerve injuries in each of the last two games and missed practice Tuesday so he could be examined by a specialist in Indianapolis.

                                Team physician Patrick McKenzie and trainer Pepper Burris said the injuries resulted from looseness between the top two vertebrae in Sharpe's neck.

                                The condition was gradual, and displayed itself Dec. 18 against Atlanta, when Sharpe's head snapped back while he was blocking safety Brad Edwards.

                                Sharpe must undergo surgery to fuse the two vertebrae, McKenzie said - a

                                procedure that would be necessary whether or not he plays football again. It will take eight months for Sharpe to recover from the procedure, which has yet to be scheduled.

                                The team and Sharpe will decide then whether he should play again.
                                And according to the Milwaukee Journal, from which I think Joe's article quotes or reproduces, it did NOT involve spinal stenosis. He also did not have a disc problem.

                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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