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  • #46
    Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
    Mahalo pb. The previous posts did not pass the common sense test.

    Unsure why board members still negate TT's personnel and drafting moves given the fact TT rescued the Packers from Sherman's ineptness, won a super bowl and positioned the team for multiple super bowl appearances.

    Expect TT to find waiver/street players to fit the scheme.
    If you're referring to my post, and not Harlan's, I don't know what you're talking about. Harlan claimed a veteran doesn't have to go through waivers(or can sign with any team he wants?). I looked it up and saw that a 'veteran' is someone who's played four years or more. So I wanted to know 1) Is this still true in the new collective bargaining and 2) Even if Green was claimed through waivers, did other teams with lesser records have a shot at him or not.

    For me, this had ZERO to do with TT's prowess as a GM. PBmax saying he went through waivers didn't really answer my question, but I wasn't specific enough.
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #47
      Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
      Unsure why board members still negate TT's personnel and drafting moves given the fact ....
      Holy strawmen, batman. TT's prowess as talent evaluator is unquestioned. The point I made is that finding a good player, especially at a tough-to-fill position like defensive line, from the scrap heap is mostly a matter of luck. I disagree that routinely players are available better than CJ Wilson, just waiting to be picked by a sharp shopping GM.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
        Holy strawmen, batman. TT's prowess as talent evaluator is unquestioned. The point I made is that finding a good player, especially at a tough-to-fill position like defensive line, from the scrap heap is mostly a matter of luck. I disagree that routinely players are available better than CJ Wilson, just waiting to be picked by a sharp shopping GM.

        Is it luck numerous teams misevaluated Green?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
          Is it luck numerous teams misevaluated Green?
          Is it?

          Did they?

          Who else should have picked him up?
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #50
            TT found Gado when we really needed him to lift the spirits of Packer Nation. Never forget it.
            C.H.U.D.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Freak Out View Post
              TT found Gado when we really needed him to lift the spirits of Packer Nation. Never forget it.
              Who could forget Dr. Gado? Bend over, it's time for your rectal exam

              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #52
                Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                Is it luck numerous teams misevaluated Green?
                The story of Green is pretty funny, he was driving to his hometown somewhere in the South, dejected, got a call on his cell phone, then immediately changed direction and drove 2000 miles to Green Bay.

                I believe that it was GB's dire need and attractive opportunity that pushed GB to the top of Green's queu. We can't prove our differing perceptions, so just have to agree to be disagreeable. I mean disagree on being agreeable. No, agree to disagree without being agreeable.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                  The story of Green is pretty funny, he was driving to his hometown somewhere in the South, dejected, got a call on his cell phone, then immediately changed direction and drove 2000 miles to Green Bay.

                  I believe that it was GB's dire need and attractive opportunity that pushed GB to the top of Green's queu. We can't prove our differing perceptions, so just have to agree to be disagreeable. I mean disagree on being agreeable. No, agree to disagree without being agreeable.
                  Driving home in a Ford pickup truck, I believe. Gotta bring it up Blue Dog, it adds colour!
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                  Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                    The story of Green is pretty funny, he was driving to his hometown somewhere in the South, dejected, got a call on his cell phone, then immediately changed direction and drove 2000 miles to Green Bay.

                    I believe that it was GB's dire need and attractive opportunity that pushed GB to the top of Green's queu. We can't prove our differing perceptions, so just have to agree to be disagreeable. I mean disagree on being agreeable. No, agree to disagree without being agreeable.
                    You also left out the part about him going off the road and almost getting impaled by a post as he was talking to the Packers rep. Now that would have been a story.

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                    • #55
                      The Packers added a defensive lineman to the practice squad Wednesday when they signed rookie Johnny Jones. The The 6-foot-4, 310-pound Marshall University product signed with the Miami Dolphins as an undrafted free agent in July and played in two preseason games before being cut.

                      The practice squad spot was opened when receiver Chastin West left to sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars on Monday.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                        The Packers added a defensive lineman to the practice squad Wednesday when they signed rookie Johnny Jones. The The 6-foot-4, 310-pound Marshall University product signed with the Miami Dolphins as an undrafted free agent in July and played in two preseason games before being cut.

                        The practice squad spot was opened when receiver Chastin West left to sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars on Monday.
                        Is this signing 100 percent luck if Jones performs like Green?

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                        • #57
                          No, I'm not questioning TT's talent evaluation. This player is more typical of a midseason acquisition than guys like Green & Jackson who have experience as starters and can still play. There is a lot of luck in finding a guy like that at the Dline position.

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                          • #58
                            TT likes defensive lineman named Johny. Jolly is gone, he needed a replacement.

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                            • #59
                              Guy would've been eligible for the practice squad if no one picked him up after he would've been cut. My guess is that the team felt they wouldn't be able to slide him through to the practice squad, so in the middle of the night they had Trgovac sneak in Guy's room and kick him in the head, then they put him on IR with a head injury.

                              As a fan who's allowed to make easy-sounding suggestions nearly impossible to pull off in real life, I suggest that Thompson trade James Jones and a pick for a young d-lineman maybe in a contract year. Which defensive linemen fall into that category and play for teams that are already struggling this season? Hell, I don't know. Ask Ted.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Guy would've been eligible for the practice squad if no one picked him up after he would've been cut. My guess is that the team felt they wouldn't be able to slide him through to the practice squad, so in the middle of the night they had Trgovac sneak in Guy's room and kick him in the head, then they put him on IR with a head injury.
                                I don't think they needed to do that. For all the practices and preseason games that Guy missed because the doctors wouldn't clear him for a concussion, given the NFL's recent emphasis on concussions... nobody was going to call them out for putting him on IR.
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