Best Quarterback Franchises: A Top 5 List

[channtheman]

I dunno, Chan...we always thought the same about Favre. We always figured with as great as he was, there was always a SB around the corner.

That's true, but it would be very disappointing to me if last year is the only SB that Rodgers wins. I do get your point though.

[Joemailman]

I dunno, Chan...we always thought the same about Favre. We always figured with as great as he was, there was always a SB around the corner.

I'm sure the Dolphins thought the same thing with Marino. Rodgers will continue to be great. The question is whether the rest of the team will remain at an elite level. Woodson, Driver and Clifton are likely getting near the end. Nick Collins may be done. Maintaining a Super Bowl-caliber team is a real challenge.

[channtheman]

I'm sure the Dolphins thought the same thing with Marino. Rodgers will continue to be great. The question is whether the rest of the team will remain at an elite level. Woodson, Driver and Clifton are likely getting near the end. Nick Collins may be done. Maintaining a Super Bowl-caliber team is a real challenge.

I'm mostly concerned about our defense. We do have some young stars coming up on defense, but our offense seems to be ONLY young stars.

[Pugger]

I dunno, Chan...we always thought the same about Favre. We always figured with as great as he was, there was always a SB around the corner.

Even tho he has scads of records my beef with Favre is his less than stellar play in big games. I'm hoping Rodgers has ample opportunities to play in big games and performs more like Starr than #4.

[Upnorth]

I would love to see this team three peat, I know we still have not won #2 yet and the cart has a lenght and a half lead over the horse at this point, but it would be sweet to see the pack be the only team to ever three peat, and this will be there third time!

Some one must have put prosac in my coffee this morning.

[pbmax]

Bump.

[Upnorth]

I was talking about a three peat? Man talk about over indulging in prosac.

[Pugger]

I dunno, Chan...we always thought the same about Favre. We always figured with as great as he was, there was always a SB around the corner.

That's true, but it would be very disappointing to me if last year is the only SB that Rodgers wins. I do get your point though.

I should have added this before.

That is the real mystery, isn't it? Why a player like Favre would only win one title? I suppose we could say the same thing about P. Manning. So maybe winning all those titles by Starr looks more impressive when you think about it.

I'd wager Rodgers wins at least one more ring because of the way he plays = he's careful with the football and doesn't take unneccessary chances like BF did at times. We shall see (and we all sure hope it is more than just one more!).

[Deputy Nutz]

Well it is a team game, and if coaching staffs aren't put together in the right way, and if the draft and free agency isn't handled correctly it is really tough to win Super Bowls. The Green Bay Packers were in desperate need for a Championship in the 90s and Wolf put all the pieces together to make that run and he succeeded, but there wasn't a lot left after 1997 and 1998, Holmgren left, half of his coaching staff were head coaches. Wolf made some dreadful mistakes in hiring and Sherman proved he was one of the worst GMs in NFL History.

I give tons of respect to Ted Thompson, he is really on a run and if he continues to have success in the draft this team has a chance every year. It is all about reloading and not getting stale. Now if McCarthy left where would this current team be in 2 years? What if then Thompson left?

[channtheman]

Well it is a team game, and if coaching staffs aren't put together in the right way, and if the draft and free agency isn't handled correctly it is really tough to win Super Bowls. The Green Bay Packers were in desperate need for a Championship in the 90s and Wolf put all the pieces together to make that run and he succeeded, but there wasn't a lot left after 1997 and 1998, Holmgren left, half of his coaching staff were head coaches. Wolf made some dreadful mistakes in hiring and Sherman proved he was one of the worst GMs in NFL History.

I give tons of respect to Ted Thompson, he is really on a run and if he continues to have success in the draft this team has a chance every year. It is all about reloading and not getting stale. Now if McCarthy left where would this current team be in 2 years? What if then Thompson left?

I'm not saying that you are saying that MM or TT are going to leave, but really where would they want to go? You have to think the MM/TT partnership is about as good as it gets for both of them. I don't see McCarthy getting the GM itch and wanting to run the whole show like the previous two Mike's wanted to (Holmgren moreso than Sherman) and TT will probably be allowed to be GM here until he doesn't want to.

[Deputy Nutz]

I am not saying they are gonig any where anytime soon, but you can point to Holmgren leaving and personel moves made by Wolf and his retirement as the ending of the Super Bowl run in the 1990s. I was answering a question as to why Favre never won more Super Bowls. After 1997 his best chances to win a Super Bowl was in 2003, 2007, and 2009 as a Viking. Again hypothetically where would this team be in two years if McCarthy bolted for Pittsburgh or Philly, and Thompson retired two years after that? This game changes on a dime, and the parity in the league is at an all time high, Rodgers could have some great seasons in the next 7 years but might not ever make it to another Super Bowl because of things that are out of his hands.

[sharpe1027]

I agree with Dep. Nutz's point, that it is a team game and wrong to judge a QB solely on SB wins and to assume that a great QB will win more SBs in the future. IMO, QB's get too much credit and too much blame.

Rodgers is playing lights out right now, but if he had been traded to the Redskins at the begining of the year, he would not even be close to his current stats. Early in Favre's career, he played better than the QBs on other teams, but the Packers still only one one SB. On the other hand, Favre has had his share of the blame for not having more SB wins with his horrific playoff performances late in his career.

[MJZiggy]

Well it is a team game, and if coaching staffs aren't put together in the right way, and if the draft and free agency isn't handled correctly it is really tough to win Super Bowls. The Green Bay Packers were in desperate need for a Championship in the 90s and Wolf put all the pieces together to make that run and he succeeded, but there wasn't a lot left after 1997 and 1998, Holmgren left, half of his coaching staff were head coaches. Wolf made some dreadful mistakes in hiring and Sherman proved he was one of the worst GMs in NFL History.

I give tons of respect to Ted Thompson, he is really on a run and if he continues to have success in the draft this team has a chance every year. It is all about reloading and not getting stale. Now if McCarthy left where would this current team be in 2 years? What if then Thompson left?

This post does a tremendous disservice to the absolute suckitude that was Matt Millen's reign.

[Deputy Nutz]

I can't comment on how hard Matt Millen worked as the GM of the Lions. I just can't attribute the success of the job as an NFL GM on hard work alone. I think there has to be talent their besides just locking yourself away in a film room and study tape of college players. You also have to have a great staff around you, and you just can't say enough about the job Reggie McKenzie has done.

[Fritz]

So Don Majkowski gets no love at all on the Packers' top-seven list of all-time QB's?