Rodgers = Mr. Consistency

[Fritz]

Well, how about comparing Rodgers to Starr? They are more similar in style than Favre and Starr or Favre and Rodgers.

[pbmax]

Dan Patrick yesterday made the mistake of calling Bart Starr a game manager along the lines of Bob Griese. I would bet older Packer fans lit up the telegraph office with complaints.

[Fritz]

Dan Patrick yesterday made the mistake of calling Bart Starr a game manager along the lines of Bob Griese. I would bet older Packer fans lit up the telegraph office with complaints.

Maybe Dan Patrick should stop looking in the mirror and fondling his nipples all the time and maybe do some research. Here ya go, DP (love your initials!):

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2103_The_definitive_list%3A_Top_10_NFL_quarterbacks.html

[MJZiggy]

Eli? I don't buy that one. But if you mean Peyton, then I will take the QB without the neck collar on.

I was thinking the same thing except I forgot about Eli. How can you forget a whole quarterback????

[HarveyWallbangers]

Great facts really Harvey but:

What's with the comparisons with Brett Favre.

It wasn't my comparison. It was an article in the Minneapolis paper. I think it was an interesting talking point, and something that I've been saying for several weeks now.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Before Favre vs. Rodgers, we had plenty of discussions about Favre vs. Starr. The years separating these three greats is the reason you see even more Favre vs. Rodgers comparison. I'm sure most Steve Young conversations ended up being a Young vs. Montana comparison for 49ers fans in the early to mid 90s.

Maybe we should compare Starr vs. Favre vs. Rodgers. Which of the three do you think was the best at their best? Rank 'em. I'd go Rodgers (now), Favre (in the mid 90s), and Starr (in the mid 60s). Favre had the longevity, so did Starr. For career accomplishments those two are still at the top of the list, but I'd go with Rodgers play right now being the best QB play we've ever seen in Green Bay.

[gbgary]

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...rterbacks.html

fooking awesome!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can't remember any QB playing better over a string of games, ever. But then again, I can't remember what I had for dinner last night.

[Fritz]

Your mom made Kraft macaroni and cheese, blue dog. She gave you a milk bone for dessert.

[woodbuck27]

PB's got it exactly right.

There's no doubt that Rodger's ceiling is as high as Favre's ever was. What remains to be seen is if will be able to have a long career.

The Pack didn't have to worry about who was going to be under center for well over a decade. I remember reading something about the number of QB's Chicago went through during Favre's tenure, and it was shocking. That was something that certainly contributed in a not-insignificant way to how good and central he was to the Pack's success.

No one is expecting Rodger's to have anywhere near the longevity Favre did - I doubt anyone will, ever again.

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[woodbuck27]

On every Packer board I visit if anyone begins a thread about Rodgers' play it ALWAYS becomes a AR/BF comparison and this is my beef. Why can't we just discuss Rodgers and HIS play without having to bring our past QB into every freaking thread? Woodbuck is right, Rodgers' play, especially over these past dozen games since last season, should stand on their own merit.

Thank You.

[woodbuck27]

QB's are always compared to one another. The Packers have been blessed with two historically great QBs in succession. Which one is/was greater? The comparisons are not only inevitable, but they're good for the Packers and demonstrate how exceptional the franchis is and how fortunate Packer fans have been.

At first, Rodgers couldn't compare to the greatness of Favre, but he was still compared to him and people blasted him for it. Kids were telling him to go fuck himself. He was even threatened physical harm if I recall. How could he ever match up to Favre...

Well, he got past that, but today, he not only compares, but has done better when you look at production on the field at this respective point in their careers. Now it's not just Rodgers being compared to Favre, but Favre being compared to Rodgers - in many ways not so well. Rodgers has arrived and a good way to establish that is to compare him to the legendary QB who came before him. It's a legitimate thing to do and it's good for Rodgers and the Packers.

Those who continue to harbor emotional baggage don't like the comparisons, but attempting to stifle the free exchange of ideas because of some personal emotional need to avoid thinking about certain things isn't going to work.

Those who continue to harbor emotional baggage don't like the comparisons, but attempting to stifle the free exchange of ideas because of some personal emotional need to avoid thinking about certain things isn't going to work. Vince

No Vince.I humbly submit this:

I personally hope that AR absolutely destroys Favre's and any other QB's seasonal records, as he's our current QB.

The people who loved Brett Favre will not ever let go of that love as we appreciated Favre's special ways as our QB. we especilly have to appreciate his endurance and lonetivity to start all those games and somehow lead some pretty poor talent to winning seasons. He played awesome overall right up to and including his final season in Green Bay. He just had a difficult time wiring that brain of his and his emotions into finishing more often. That sucker gave us all he was and sometimes that was too much. He was removed and replaced as OUR QB and that was emotonal for some of his most dedicated fans

Is that too strange? Too much to comprehend?

It's called loyality to a GREAT Green Bay Packer. Loyalty to a QB that will go down as an ALL Time NFL GREAT; as well and a man that played the game with as much grit, determination and toughness as can be matched by no other NFL player IMO, much more an NFL QB.

I'm a Green Bay Packer fan today as I've be for over 50 seasons.

I realistically pull for and enjoy seeing AR play as he has so far. That is one amazing NFL QB and WOW! He's OURS ! The past is the past. We Favre fans appreciate all Favre did for the game as a Green Bay Packer and his legacy is assured and in the books. Read all the ink. There is a load of it and that spells Favre's GREATNESS. PERIOD.

I want AR to do his best to surpass FAVRE AND PLAY LIGHTS OUT FOOTBALL AS OUR QB AND I SEE HIS POTENTIAL TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND A BETTER BIG GAME WINNER THAN BRETT FAVRE WAS. AR WILL HAVE TO PLAY MORE SEASONS YET, BEFORE WE CAN ACCURATELY ASSESS HIM VS BRETT FAVRE IN TERMS OF THAT INK I WRITE OF.

FOR NOW I WANT AARON RODGERS TO BE THE BEST SEASON TO SEASON WE'VE EVER SEEN. (WHOOPS...SORRY FOR THE CAP LOCKS)

[woodbuck27]

It wasn't my comparison. It was an article in the Minneapolis paper. I think it was an interesting talking point, and something that I've been saying for several weeks now.

It's cool Harve and now we have a debate that may just clear some air in OUR Packer Home.

[HarveyWallbangers]

AR WILL HAVE TO PLAY MORE SEASONS YET, BEFORE WE CAN ACCURATELY ASSESS HIM VS BRETT FAVRE IN TERMS OF THAT INK I WRITE OF.

It's not talking about career achievements. Favre had more longevity than anyone. Rodgers won't be around that long, so he'll never have the career records. The premise of the article is that Rodgers is playing better right now than Favre did at his best. You don't need more seasons to determine that. Either you agree with the premise or you don't.

[Pugger]

Of course it does. The only way to establish context to discuss the greatness of any player is to compare them to other great players.

But in every thread?? As I said above, it isn't just here. Its on other forums as well. If you visit them and read any Rodgers thread about his play in any particular game sooner or later somebody will bring up #4. I don't recall this happening when Favre was our starter and folks bringing up Starr all the time.

Comparisons are fine when you are trying to establish the overall play of a QB but not when you are discussing how the QB is performing each week.