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  • #1

    Special Teams

    Football outsiders has a total ST's breakdown. The Packers are 14th out of 32. They broke it down into 5 categories. . . Kick, Punt, Kick Return, Punt Return, FG. I'll just give the Packers a 1-5 based on memory of last years team and based on football outsiders for how they rank this year.


    Kick
    2010 - 1 - Fire slowcum
    2011 - 3 - Middle of the league right now



    Kick Return
    2010 - 2
    2011 - 4



    Punt
    2010 - 2 (I remember Masthay struggling early)
    2011 - 1 (A couple big returns killing our stats right now. Masthay is starting to come on again)



    Punt Return
    2010 - 3 - I thought Tramon was average
    2011 - 3 - We're in the middle of the league right now



    Field Goal
    2010 - 3
    2011 - 5



    2010 Average
    2.2

    2011 Average
    3.2


    Perspective:

    Nobody is horrible at everything or great at everything. Indy is the worst this year. They have below average FG, average kick coverage, bad kick return, awful punt coverage and below average punt return. That's a 2,3,2,1,2. That's a 2.0 average. So the Packers 2.2 last year is awful.


    Does Pathetic ST's to Average ST's make a 1 or 2 game difference in 7 games?
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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  • #2
    I'm still thinking Slocum is not exactly setting the world on fire as a coach.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
      I'm still thinking Slocum is not exactly setting the world on fire as a coach.
      Perhaps, but if they can maintain their current level of play, that is a major improvement over last year when they finished 26th. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst2010

      It's not like the packers need to be dominant on special teams to be successful.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        And they "finished" 26th. Masthay really came on in those last few games of the regular season and miraculously, the coverage units stopped being horrible at that time too. . . . We might have been more like 30th for most of the year.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #5
          Slocum has to be a tad concerned. What is going on with ST's?

          It's TIME.

          For an assesment and conclusion strategy.
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          • #6
            Slocum isn't the greatest coach in the league by a long shot but I wonder if some of our problems last year were because we had different guys in there almost every week? With starters and their backups dropping like flies we had street FAs in there literally learning on the fly. We had fellas playing ST that normally wouldn't be on an NFL payroll so we lost at least 2games because of ST gaffs. I'm not giving Slocum a pass here, but offering a plausible reason for our crappy ST play last season.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              I'm still thinking Slocum is not exactly setting the world on fire as a coach.
              He is much more like a wet blanket.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                Slocum has to be a tad concerned. What is going on with ST's?

                It's TIME.

                For an assesment and conclusion strategy.
                It was time for an assessment and conclusion strategy three years ago. Now they're starting to get better.
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • #9
                  Of course, it'd be crazy to fire the guy during the season, but at the end of the season I would hope it'd be reviewed very carefully.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    Of course, it'd be crazy to fire the guy during the season, but at the end of the season I would hope it'd be reviewed very carefully.
                    There are some overreactions I am willing to live with. This is one.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #11
                      If we had decreased from 2009 to 2010 I would be okay with slocum but we sucked in 2009. Masthay is having a great year but has a below average net due to coverage team. Cobb has amazing potential but our blocking scheme does not help. We have great talent but it does not show up on game day. That is coaching. There are better out there let's get one in the offseason after we win SB #5.
                      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                      George Orwell

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                        If we had decreased from 2009 to 2010 I would be okay with slocum but we sucked in 2009. Masthay is having a great year but has a below average net due to coverage team. Cobb has amazing potential but our blocking scheme does not help. We have great talent but it does not show up on game day. That is coaching. There are better out there let's get one in the offseason after we win SB #5.
                        Who do you have in mind? Teams that have a good ST coach probably aren't going to release them from their contract so they can go help the poor beleaguered Packers.

                        Slocum isn't great, but things seem to be getting better.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #13
                          This could be the best punter/field goal kicker combo in Packer history. Just sayin'
                          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            Who do you have in mind? Teams that have a good ST coach probably aren't going to release them from their contract so they can go help the poor beleaguered Packers.

                            Slocum isn't great, but things seem to be getting better.
                            I must admit I don't have anyone in mind, but I would go to a mid level college which does not have all world recruits but does have consistently really good special teams and start from there.
                            Also mathsay and crosby is the best packer kicking combo I can think of.
                            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                            George Orwell

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                            • #15
                              So Slocum gets credit for developing the best Packer kicking combo ever?
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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