Tebow takes a beating

[pbmax]

Were a Packer to do that in a game to mock Tebow, I would be very disappointed.
Mocking something as personal as a person's religious beliefs is inappropriate, in my opinion.
Mocking Rodgers' "belt" or another contrived celebratory move is juvenile, in my opinion, but is show for show. It is mocking something that is done for the show of the game. Mocking an individuals heartfelt action based on a belief in God is disrespect of an act unrelated to football. Tebow does not do it for show.

Incidentally, it should be noted that several Packer receivers take a knee for a brief moment of thanks after scoring a TD. Other players do, too. No need to mock Tebow for it just because he is a QB.

How do you know it's a heartfelt action?

I find it odd that any player does it, but Tebow's was even more posed and considered than most of the public celebrations of this type. I find it odd that such a prayer never follows an INT, when a player (DB or QB) still has a lot to be thankful for.

[Fritz]

I would prefer a QB shaking his fist at the sky after throwing an interception. If God needs to be thanked after helping you succeed, why not blame him/her/it when you fail? If God is responsible for success, why not failure too?

[pbmax]

I would prefer a QB shaking his fist at the sky after throwing an interception. If God needs to be thanked after helping you succeed, why not blame him/her/it when you fail? If God is responsible for success, why not failure too?

The gesture, and reminder behind it (often, all glory belongs to God) is usually evoked to keep oneself humble. However, to do this in a stadium of 80,000 with a national television audience watching, seems to speak of everything BESIDE humility.

What I always wonder is if they would do the same when playing a pickup game.

[pbmax]

I watched that game. Like most broadcast games, you don't get a view of the secondary, but it seemed to me there weren't a whole lot of receivers getting separation for Denver. Ask yourself this: who is a number 1 receiver in that offense? Decker? I'm not impressed at all with Tebow, but dude doesn't have much help.

Brandon Lloyd, but the point is well taken. Its a team without many threats.

I don't think he is Vick, Young (Steve or Vince) or Newton or Rodgers in terms of mobility at QB. He is a battering ram of a player who has been most accurate and consistent with the spread and lots of short, quick routes like Meyers Florida and Utah offenses. Either they would need to move to that or he needs to become an H back/wildcat.

Since Elway and Fox did not draft him, I see him being moved to a new position or team.

The worst thing that happened to him was that a neophyte coach fell in love with him and didn't have the power to stay in place to build an offense around him.

[mraynrand]

If he would have read Matthew 6:5-6 he wouldn't be Tebowing in the first place, and many people would find him a lot less annoying

That's a good point, if Tebow is seeking to glorify himself. Alternatively, he may be witnessing. It is not possible to do that in private, though it's valid to question the efficacy of doing it on the football field.

[mraynrand]

Brandon Lloyd, but the point is well taken. Its a team without many threats.

I don't think he is Vick, Young (Steve or Vince) or Newton or Rodgers in terms of mobility at QB. He is a battering ram of a player who has been most accurate and consistent with the spread and lots of short, quick routes like Meyers Florida and Utah offenses. Either they would need to move to that or he needs to become an H back/wildcat.

Since Elway and Fox did not draft him, I see him being moved to a new position or team.

The worst thing that happened to him was that a neophyte coach fell in love with him and didn't have the power to stay in place to build an offense around him.

Lloyd went to St. Louis before the trade deadline, and is making A.J. Feeley look good

[Patler]

Were a Packer to do that in a game to mock Tebow, I would be very disappointed.
Mocking something as personal as a person's religious beliefs is inappropriate, in my opinion.
Mocking Rodgers' "belt" or another contrived celebratory move is juvenile, in my opinion, but is show for show. It is mocking something that is done for the show of the game. Mocking an individuals heartfelt action based on a belief in God is disrespect of an act unrelated to football. Tebow does not do it for show.

Incidentally, it should be noted that several Packer receivers take a knee for a brief moment of thanks after scoring a TD. Other players do, too. No need to mock Tebow for it just because he is a QB.

How do you know it's a heartfelt action?

I find it odd that any player does it, but Tebow's was even more posed and considered than most of the public celebrations of this type. I find it odd that such a prayer never follows an INT, when a player (DB or QB) still has a lot to be thankful for.

You guys on this website are unbelievable. How about "Mocking an individual for what in my opinion is a heartfelt action based on a belief in God is disrespect of an act unrelated to football. Tebow does not do it for show, in my opinion." Is that better?

Was it that unclear that I was writing OPINION??????? I wrote "....in my opinion......" twice in that same paragraph.

Do I know have to precede or end every sentence with "in my opinion???????????????

[mraynrand]

I would prefer a QB shaking his fist at the sky after throwing an interception. If God needs to be thanked after helping you succeed, why not blame him/her/it when you fail? If God is responsible for success, why not failure too?

It's potentially more dangerous to yell at God when things don't go your way. You know, lightening strikes and all that. Especially when you are in the Rockies.

[Patler]

The worst thing that happened to him was that a neophyte coach fell in love with him and didn't have the power to stay in place to build an offense around him.

How do you know the coach fell in love with him? (See, two can play your silly-ass game.)

[mraynrand]

Do I know have to precede or end every sentence with "in my opinion???????????????

On this website? Probably a good idea - especially if you don't want to get shot by Skinbasket's kids. BTW, you can just use IMO or IMHO - you don't have to write it all out. BTW, IMHO In his stead, and by his command, Tim Tebow forgives you.

[pbmax]

That's a good point, if Tebow is seeking to glorify himself. Alternatively, he may be witnessing. It is not possible to do that in private, though it's valid to question the efficacy of doing it on the football field.

I have always found that dichotomy fascinating. I suspect that a number of athletes do this at games to set a good example, a step less serious than a witness (in my mind anyway). Which raises a whole other host of questions.

I can understand the humility aspect after a touchdown, especially when contrasted to Ochocinco putting the football with a pylon. But it would still make more sense to me if you were doing it before a crucial fourth down play, looking for guidance before deciding on a run/pass option.

[mraynrand]

I have always found that dichotomy fascinating. I suspect that a number of athletes do this at games to set a good example, a step less serious than a witness (in my mind anyway). Which raises a whole other host of questions.

I can understand the humility aspect after a touchdown, especially when contrasted to Ochocinco putting the football with a pylon. But it would still make more sense to me if you were doing it before a crucial fourth down play, looking for guidance before deciding on a run/pass option.

I suspect a lot of QBs pray on fourth down - especially if it's for more than 10 yards, and they are playing in Baltimore.

[Airin' Rodgers]

Jennings prays after nearly every touchdown reception. No one mocks him.

[Patler]

Jennings prays after nearly every touchdown reception. No one mocks him.

Yes he does, and I think at least one other WR does too. James Jones perhaps?

[pbmax]

I suspect a lot of QBs pray on fourth down - especially if it's for more than 10 yards, and they are playing in Baltimore.

That could be while some QBs still kneel in the huddle. Tough to do in the no-huddle though.