Tebow takes a beating

[mraynrand]

How do you know the coach fell in love with him? (See, two can play your silly-ass game.)

I know how important rock solid proof is to you Patler:

[pbmax]

Yes he does, and I think at least one other WR does too. James Jones perhaps?

Why then, do you suspect, that Tebow is regarded differently?

[Patler]

For those too addle-brained to realize it, the entirety of the following statement is offered as opinion based on a life time of observation, but is not offered as a statement of fact for any purpose whatsoever:


For those referencing Matthew 6:5-6:

There is a big difference between pronounced public prayer to seek guidance and direction, and a quick public prayer in thanksgiving for a blessing just received.

[mraynrand]

Why then, do you suspect, that Tebow is regarded differently?

Not to answer for Patler, but Tebow is more outspoken about it - even though Jennings did say 'To God be the glory' in his post-Superbowl interview. That's less in-your-face than what Tebow does. I'm a bit conflicted about Tebow. he seems to be utterly sincere, but there's a fine line to walk there where you put people off and may destroy your efforts, as suggested by Mad Scientist above. Then there's the Aaron Kampman strategy, which I prefer, and which conforms to Matt. 6. But it's far less visible, so does it have as much of an effect? It's an interesting question to me, but probably not so much for a football forum!

[mraynrand]

For those too addle-brained to realize it, the entirety of the following statement is offered as opinion based on a life time of observation, but is not offered as a statement of fact for any purpose whatsoever:

There is a big difference between pronounced public prayer to seek guidance and direction, and a quick public prayer in thanksgiving for a blessing just received.

Just Use 'OBOALOO.' Everyone else does.

[pbmax]

You guys on this website are unbelievable. How about "Mocking an individual for what in my opinion is a heartfelt action based on a belief in God is disrespect of an act unrelated to football. Tebow does not do it for show, in my opinion." Is that better?

Was it that unclear that I was writing OPINION??????? I wrote "....in my opinion......" twice in that same paragraph.

Do I know have to precede or end every sentence with "in my opinion???????????????

I was not trying to pry an "in Patler's opinion" out of you. I was pointing out that the difference you suggest between Rodger's and Tebow's gestures are based solely on the opinion of the person viewing the gesture. Therefore, open to interpretation by all.

In my opinion, I see players mocking a another who is completely out of his depth at his position. And who carries a media presence that far outstrips his professional accomplishments.

And I detect an odd disconnect between associating oneself in this manner with God only when success is at hand.

In this light, mocking Rodgers gesture prior to the Super Bowl made perfect sense. Mocking it this year seems to be grasping. Mocking Tebow after the success of Miami (the road game, not "the U") seems to me to be making light of his minimal professional accomplishments.

[pbmax]

How do you know the coach fell in love with him? (See, two can play your silly-ass game.)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/27/mailbag/index.html

Unless I need to defend the use of the word love used idiomatically to mean "overvalue".

I am not sure why the question of assertion of fact versus opinion has become such a hot topic, but I did not attempt to refute your point by merely questioning what was obviously your opinion. I used a question about your opinion as a start to offer a contradictory one.

My full apologies for the (unintended) offense.

[mraynrand]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...bag/index.html

Unless I need to defend the use of the word love used idiomatically to mean "overvalue".

I am not sure why the question of assertion of fact versus opinion has become such a hot topic, but I did not attempt to refute your point by merely questioning what was obviously your opinion. I used a question about your opinion as a start to offer a contradictory one.

My full apologies for the (unintended) offense.

OBOALOO, Tebow baffled McDaniels with his bullshit. If Tebow picks up the terminology so fast, it shouldn't be hard to pick up John Fox's terminology: "Hand the ball to running back. Repeat."

[pbmax]

Not to answer for Patler, but Tebow is more outspoken about it - even though Jennings did say 'To God be the glory' in his post-Superbowl interview. That's less in-your-face than what Tebow does. I'm a bit conflicted about Tebow. he seems to be utterly sincere, but there's a fine line to walk there where you put people off and may destroy your efforts, as suggested by Mad Scientist above. Then there's the Aaron Kampman strategy, which I prefer, and which conforms to Matt. 6. But it's far less visible, so does it have as much of an effect? It's an interesting question to me, but probably not so much for a football forum!

I agree it is fascinating, but my own thinking is far more closely aligned to the Kampman approach than to the Tebow approach (or Andrew Quarless' approach).

However, I think Tebow is hurt more than helped in this arena and in football by his notoriety, which is unfortunate.

[Patler]

I was not trying to pry an "in Patler's opinion" out of you. I was pointing out that the difference you suggest between Rodger's and Tebow's gestures are based solely on the opinion of the person viewing the gesture. Therefore, open to interpretation by all.

In my opinion, I see players mocking a another who is completely out of his depth at his position. And who carries a media presence that far outstrips his professional accomplishments.

And I detect an odd disconnect between associating oneself in this manner with God only when success is at hand.

In this light, mocking Rodgers gesture prior to the Super Bowl made perfect sense. Mocking it this year seems to be grasping. Mocking Tebow after the success of Miami seems to me to be making light of his minimal professional accomplishments.

For those too addle-brained to realize it, the entirety of the following statement is offered as opinion based on a life time of observation, but is not offered as a statement of fact for any purpose whatsoever:


In my opinion your "explanation" does not correlate with you previous post. Just my opinion however. No factual basis or support for it at all. Just my interpretation of the words you used in the combinations presented. I could be completely wrong about this. I fully recognize that.

[mraynrand]

For those too addle-brained to realize it, the entirety of the following statement is offered as opinion based on a life time of observation, but is not offered as a statement of fact for any purpose whatsoever:


In my opinion your "explanation" does not correlate with you previous post. Just my opinion however. No factual basis or support for it at all. Just my interpretation of the words you used in the combinations presented. I could be completely wrong about this. I fully recognize that.

I recommend a bottle of Bass Ale before your next post. I think things will look better - OBOALOO.

[pbmax]

For those too addle-brained to realize it, the entirety of the following statement is offered as opinion based on a life time of observation, but is not offered as a statement of fact for any purpose whatsoever:


In my opinion your "explanation" does not correlate with you previous post. Just my opinion however. No factual basis or support for it at all. Just my interpretation of the words you used in the combinations presented. I could be completely wrong about this. I fully recognize that.

In my opinion, they are consistent, though the second post (quoted in your message quoted here) was a fuller explanation of both my doubts about the gesture and the possible reasons one could choose to mock it.

[MadScientist]

Just Use 'OBOALOO.' Everyone else does.

According to Google, you are the only one using that acronym, whatever it stands for.

[Patler]

According to Google, you are the only one using that acronym, whatever it stands for.

OBOALOO.

"Opinion Based On A Lifetime Of Observation", I assume.

[Cheesehead Craig]

OBOALOO.

"Opinion Based On A Lifetime Of Observation", I assume.

But that's just your opinion on that though, at least that's my opinion on the subject.