Nike Neal maybe practicing next week!

[Upnorth]

The title of this thread makes me laugh every time I see it.

I think it's the "maybe" in the title and the state of Green Bay's pass rush.

When your needy, hope is a beautiful thing.

[Fritz]

Football players are such wimps now days!

Fifty years ago a player with Neal's knee would have just kept on playing with his "trick knee". It might have caused his knee to lock up every now and then, making him fall on his face while running, but so what????

And if an eyeball popped out, they'd pop it back in and get back out there, dammit.

[swede]

And if an eyeball popped out, they'd pop it back in and get back out there, dammit.

No school like the old school.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011111102133

“My quad went from being super ginormous to looking like a baby leg. I look like I have one of the trainer’s legs,” Neal said.

Unless he takes Patler's advice, rubs some mud on it and gets the hell out there, it is going to be a while before Neal is football ready.

How quickly do muscles build up? A month and a half would be fast.

[gbgary]

And if an eyeball popped out, they'd pop it back in and get back out there, dammit.

they'd rub some dirt on it first.

[channtheman]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...=2011111102133

“My quad went from being super ginormous to looking like a baby leg. I look like I have one of the trainer’s legs,” Neal said.

Unless he takes Patler's advice, rubs some mud on it and gets the hell out there, it is going to be a while before Neal is football ready.

How quickly do muscles build up? A month and a half would be fast.

As if I needed even more reason to think I'll never see Neal play for the Packers. Some guys come to the NFL and juts get hurt, and then they get hurt again, and then again, and (you get the point). I think Neal is one of those guys. And the funny thing is, we don't even know if he is any good. For all we know, he could be a bust on the field as well!

[Guiness]

I just looked back through the injury report, Mathews has been listed for his quad, and hasn't had a full practice since week 3!

[Pugger]

Green Bay has a pass rush?

Unfortunately no.

[RashanGary]

Football players are such wimps now days!

Fifty years ago a player with Neal's knee would have just kept on playing with his "trick knee". It might have caused his knee to lock up every now and then, making him fall on his face while running, but so what????

Sounds like a bunch of retards to me.

[rbaloha1]

Is Neal Justin Harrell II?

[Patler]

Football players are such wimps now days!

Fifty years ago a player with Neal's knee would have just kept on playing with his "trick knee". It might have caused his knee to lock up every now and then, making him fall on his face while running, but so what????

You are right on the money there, Patler. To hear Neal and the Packer staff talk about his knee injury, you'd think the Good Lord only gave us one leg each.

Ya, it wasn't that long ago that knee surgery generally meant the end of your career. Athletes just didn't recover from it very well, so they played with it as long as they possibly could without having the surgery. Running backs especially used to talk about there "trick knees". Some could play again, but many never came close to what they were before the surgery. Knee surgery required an incision about 12" long, and they would expose the whole knee. Rehab meant immobilizing the knee for quite a while, now the PTs are with you the next day.

I often wonder what Gale Sayers career might have been if the arthroscopic techniques of the last 15-20 years had been available to him.

[Fritz]

Ya, it wasn't that long ago that knee surgery generally meant the end of your career. Athletes just didn't recover from it very well, so they played with it as long as they possibly could without having the surgery. Running backs especially used to talk about there "trick knees". Some could play again, but many never came close to what they were before the surgery. Knee surgery required an incision about 12" long, and they would expose the whole knee. Rehab meant immobilizing the knee for quite a while, now the PTs are with you the next day.

I often wonder what Gale Sayers career might have been if the arthroscopic techniques of the last 15-20 years had been available to him.

I find myself wondering the same sorts of things. I think Sayers might've gone done as one of the all-time greats, right there with Jim Brown.

I think it would've affected RB's more than others, but how about Nitsck? Would the end of his career been different?

[mraynrand]

One thing that's kind of interesting about these injuries, is that, for example, when you blow out an ACL, you get all this associated trauma to the knee - swelling, inflammatory response, etc. Those things cause a lot of damage in the knee as well, and actually speed up the process of degeneration. So while you get surgery to fix the central problem, and you can return to the field, other damage can also affect flexibility and long term knee health - so that early onset arthritis is almost a given. This is an area of active research, and I wouldn't be surprised to see that addressing the immediate damage response, coupled with stem cell therapies to generate new cartilage, that within 20 years, most major injuries will be treated to to the extent of a 'perfect fix' - at least for the highest level athletes. You could even see the most valuable athletes grow their own tissue bank of cartilage, etc. as a precaution against injury. Just like some people self donate blood for surgeries down the road.

[pbmax]

Ya, it wasn't that long ago that knee surgery generally meant the end of your career. Athletes just didn't recover from it very well, so they played with it as long as they possibly could without having the surgery. Running backs especially used to talk about there "trick knees". Some could play again, but many never came close to what they were before the surgery. Knee surgery required an incision about 12" long, and they would expose the whole knee. Rehab meant immobilizing the knee for quite a while, now the PTs are with you the next day.

I often wonder what Gale Sayers career might have been if the arthroscopic techniques of the last 15-20 years had been available to him.

Yep.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-11-02/sports/20873850_1_artificial-leg-artificial-limb-artificial-right-knee