Rodgers is on a record breaking run

[Freak Out]

That some shitty photoshopping.

WTF is up with the shadow on the right side of his face? (no...not the 5 o'clock shadow) That has to be the worst portrait photographer ever behind the camera.

[vince]

You mean the worst portrait photoshopper.

[Fritz]

Wait wait wait. What about this awesome white-guy afro?

[mraynrand]

And so unnecessary...

[Freak Out]

Ha ha..now that's bad.

[Upnorth]

Records are nice, but so are rings. I hope he gets both this year, but to get a ring we need a better pass rush. Arod is easly the best qb this year.

[Pugger]

Wait wait wait. What about this awesome white-guy afro?

Dickey was one heck of QB with one of the prettiest passes I've ever seen. Too bad our defense back then was so atrocious and couldn't stop a Pop Warner team. I'll never forget that MNF game against the 'Skins back in '83...

[gbgary]

Dickey was one heck of QB with one of the prettiest passes I've ever seen. Too bad our defense back then was so atrocious and couldn't stop a Pop Warner team. I'll never forget that MNF game against the 'Skins back in '83...

went back and forth and back and forth until we won with a fg i believe (or they lost with a fg miss), i'm not sure.

edit: i was right on both counts...http://espn.go.com/abcsports/mnf/s/c...983wasgnb.html

"Green Bay called timeout with 54 seconds left to set up Jan Stenerud's eventual game-winning 20-yard field goal.

But Washington still had time, driving 55 yards in six plays to set up Moseley's 39-yard try with three seconds to go. Over his career, Moseley had converted 82 percent of his field goal attempts from inside 40 yards to that point.

Moseley later said they "kind of rushed" the kick, as the kick sailed right and Washington suffered the loss."

[Pugger]

I forgot to add that 2 gentlemen that throw/threw wonderful passes have the same number.

[Fritz]

Dickey threw a lot of interceptions; that and his very limited mobility due to bum knees were his biggest weaknesses. As patler has said elsewhere, you wonder what a career like Dickey's might've been had surgery techniques of today been available.

My own opinion too is that at least one reason Dickey threw so many picks is that that offense felt pressured to score, score, score, given the lack of defense.

Bart Starr was not a good coach. But how much say did he have in personnel decisions? Anyone know?

[pbmax]

Dickey threw a lot of interceptions; that and his very limited mobility due to bum knees were his biggest weaknesses. As patler has said elsewhere, you wonder what a career like Dickey's might've been had surgery techniques of today been available.

My own opinion too is that at least one reason Dickey threw so many picks is that that offense felt pressured to score, score, score, given the lack of defense.

Bart Starr was not a good coach. But how much say did he have in personnel decisions? Anyone know?

It was the tradition until Infante to have the coach also be the GM. Infante shared GM duties with Tom Braatz.

[Fritz]

Ouch. This makes even more amazing that Bart Starr is still so beloved in Green Bay.

Was this a Packer tradition or was it the style in most of the NFL? I remember the Lions had a very strong GM in Russ Thomas, who, it was rumored, was drunk old man Ford's babysitter back in the 70's and 80's. Thomas made a series of mostly-terrible first round picks - he seemed to like big, slow offensive linemen from obscure western schools, I think - and he hired weak coaches with goofy-ass resumes like Rick Forzano (Navy coach, I think?) and Tommy Hudspeth and Darryl Rodgers (Michigan State).

I'd say the Packers and Lions were vying for the title of most-dysfunctional organization of the decade back in the 70's and 80's.

[pbmax]

Ouch. This makes even more amazing that Bart Starr is still so beloved in Green Bay.

Was this a Packer tradition or was it the style in most of the NFL? I remember the Lions had a very strong GM in Russ Thomas, who, it was rumored, was drunk old man Ford's babysitter back in the 70's and 80's. Thomas made a series of mostly-terrible first round picks - he seemed to like big, slow offensive linemen from obscure western schools, I think - and he hired weak coaches with goofy-ass resumes like Rick Forzano (Navy coach, I think?) and Tommy Hudspeth and Darryl Rodgers (Michigan State).

I'd say the Packers and Lions were vying for the title of most-dysfunctional organization of the decade back in the 70's and 80's.

vince and Patler can probably give you chapter and verse on the history, I am not as steeped in it as the others, but I believe the tradition dates back to the Lambeau/Lombardi success model. That and a very stubborn but firmly in control Judge Robert Parins, who was a force on the Exec Committee, if not the outright CEO.

[Pugger]

Ouch. This makes even more amazing that Bart Starr is still so beloved in Green Bay.

Was this a Packer tradition or was it the style in most of the NFL? I remember the Lions had a very strong GM in Russ Thomas, who, it was rumored, was drunk old man Ford's babysitter back in the 70's and 80's. Thomas made a series of mostly-terrible first round picks - he seemed to like big, slow offensive linemen from obscure western schools, I think - and he hired weak coaches with goofy-ass resumes like Rick Forzano (Navy coach, I think?) and Tommy Hudspeth and Darryl Rodgers (Michigan State).

I'd say the Packers and Lions were vying for the title of most-dysfunctional organization of the decade back in the 70's and 80's.

I think the reason folks love Starr today is not because of his failings as a HC/GM. Most now realize he wasn't ready to be a HC and it was foolish in the extreme that he was hired in the first place. We all are still devoted to him today because he reeks of class and the wonderful player that he was.

[Fritz]

But Forrest Gregg was a beloved 60's Packer, and he followed Starr and did not do well, yet there seems to be a sense that his reputation has been tarnished, while Starr's has not.