Rodgers is on a record breaking run

[Upnorth]

Personally I feel much better remembering glory than wallowing in hurt. Bart starr was to me either the greatest or second greatest player of all time. Further it is very rare that a coach carries weight over years, lombardi, walsh and halas are the big exception (in my opinion).

One last point how many bad coaches or players do you remember opposed to the greats?

How any of this relates to arod's excellence I don't know, but GBGary has taught me to relish in the derailment of threads. Thanks gb

[gbgary]

I think the reason folks love Starr today is not because of his failings as a HC/GM. Most now realize he wasn't ready to be a HC and it was foolish in the extreme that he was hired in the first place. We all are still devoted to him today because he reeks of class and the wonderful player that he was.

this and the fact that he won championships...he also retired a Packer legend and didn't go play for a hated rival.

[gbgary]

How any of this relates to arod's excellence I don't know, but gbgary has taught me to relish in the derailment of threads. Thanks gb

[pbmax]

But Forrest Gregg was a beloved 60's Packer, and he followed Starr and did not do well, yet there seems to be a sense that his reputation has been tarnished, while Starr's has not.

Gregg battled with a lot of people publicly in Green Bay. His persona as coach was different than Starr's. Plus several current (or perhaps recent would be a better description) writers remember battling with Gregg over questions and I have read fewer stories about arguing with Starr, though Cliff has a couple.

[Pugger]

Some of Gregg's players weren't saints either (Charles Martin comes to mind).

[Fritz]

I remember lots of lousy players. Charles Martin. Rich Campbell. Mossy Cade. Torrance Marshall. TJ Rubley. Bobby Douglass. Will Whitticker.

Remembering the greats is so much greater if you counterpose them against the likes of the above.

[gbgary]

I remember lots of lousy players. Charles Martin. Rich Campbell. Mossy Cade. Torrance Marshall. TJ Rubley. Bobby Douglass. Will Whitticker.

Remembering the greats is so much greater if you counterpose them against the likes of the above.

charles martin was stupid but i don't remember him being lousey...but you probably saw him week in week out.