Tebow

[mission]

Has Tebow even beat a good team?

[Tarlam!]

Has Tebow even beat a good team?

He beat Kyle. Kyle was 1-4. The guy knows how to win. Love him, hate him, he is a phenonomon.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Don Imus had excellent take on Tebow's inconsistencies, the three bad quarters and one good quarter, etc. He said Jesus probably didn't cure every leper. And when he walked on water, he probably fell in a few times. We only read about the successes.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It got so bad last night I couldn't watch BSPN nor the NFL Network because every 10 minutes they were talking about Tebow yet again.

Both NFL Network guys (Faulk and Irvin) said last night that the Packers were a bigger story than Tebow.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Has Tebow even beat a good team?

They beat the Jets and Bears and won at Oakland and at San Diego. It's not like they've been playing a bunch of stiffs.

[pbmax]

Both NFL Network guys (Faulk and Irvin) said last night that the Packers were a bigger story than Tebow.

Most of ESPN watching America doesn't agree.

[mission]

They beat the Jets and Bears and won at Oakland and at San Diego. It's not like they've been playing a bunch of stiffs.

OK, I'll give him Jets and Chargers. Bears without Cutler and Forte (Barber!) and Oakland are about as bad as everyone else they've beat.

[mission]

We'll see what America thinks is the bigger story after God (not Tebow) has had his fun and decides to stop showing off.

[George Cumby]

Most of ESPN watching America doesn't agree.

The obvious issues is the sampling methodology.........

[pbmax]

They beat the Jets and Bears and won at Oakland and at San Diego. It's not like they've been playing a bunch of stiffs.

Its hard to argue the Jets but they have played very poorly at times this year. The Bears are missing Cutler and Forte. San Diego was in a free fall until last week with their best unit (offense) and best player (Rivers) struggling.

But the thing that most of their wins have in common is terrible offenses: Bears: 25, Jets: 18, Minn: 22, KC: 30, Mia: 19. The outliers here are the Lions: 14 and the Chargers: 8.

The Lions have a defense to pair with a slightly above average O and won going away. The Chargers have no D left and lost.

But it would seem beyond dispute at this point that he has allowed the Broncos to be at least overall average, something Orton couldn't manage.

[Guiness]

They beat the Jets and Bears and won at Oakland and at San Diego. It's not like they've been playing a bunch of stiffs.

2 or 3 of those 4 could end up playoff teams. Yes, they've laid some eggs, but still...

[Pugger]

Most of ESPN watching America doesn't agree.

Of course the Broncos and Tebow are the bigger story. BSPN and the NFL Network and sports web pages devote a hell of lot more air time and space on their sites to Tebow and company. We are old news. This is nice to fly under the radar but it might end up robbing the true league MVP in the end of that award.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Who cares really? Rodgers will win MVP, and hopefully the Packers win the Super Bowl. As soon as the Broncos are eliminated from the playoffs, the Tebow story will go away for this year. Hopefully, we'll still be playing.

[HarveyWallbangers]

And it is a big story. A popular, galvanizing figure doing unprecedented things in unorthodox fashion. He gets too much of the credit, but you could say that about most QBs.

Despite his mechanical and footwork flaws, Tebow is money in crunch time. He's the first quarterback in NFL history to engineer a half-dozen fourth-quarter comebacks in his first 11 starts, something it even took Elway about four times as long to accomplish.

Only Manning and Rodgers have a better 4th quarter passer rating, and that doesn't take into account his rushing. All from a guy who looks like a terrible QB for much of the game.

[BallHawk]

I'll say this about Tebow. I'm currently at the University of Florida and, understandably, a lot of eyes are on him and we're all rooting for him. Last week the cable provider changed the 4:15 game from Bucs v Jags to the Bronco game. Once again, they changed it from an in-state rivalry game solely because of Tebow. There's never been anybody like this before with such a devoted fanbase and at the same time such a devoted group of cynics. I expect the Patriots to give the Broncos an ass-whooping come this week and put a cool to the Tebow hype. I'll say this, though, if Tebow pulls this one off, especially if it's largely due to his efforts (and not so much defense and miscues by the opponent like the Chicago game), then we're gonna enter a whole different realm of hype. I'll agree with Robert Kraft on one thing- hate him or love him, Tebow is good for the game right now.