Tebow

[mraynrand]

I tend to agree with you. To me, there's a time and a place to prosthelytize. He may be turning people off who may actually be interested in the message he is giving, if given in a different manner. I do believe his heart is in the right place. I don't think I could state it better than Penn. I have family and friends who are not believers. My approach to spread the Word is more subtle, but it would be hard for me to believe what I do and not want my loved ones to hear the message.

nice post

[Tarlam!]

nice post

Yeah, it was. And, I agree with Penn L. also, though, I am far from being an atheist.

[mraynrand]

I agree, there was something very enjoyable in watching Tebow beating Roethlisberger and the vaunted Pittsburgh defense in the playoffs, and it had nothing to do with religion for me either, and nothing to do with dislike for the Steelers (Roethlisberger excepted) either. At the same time, we better HOPE that NE is the end of the road for Tebowmania, otherwise someone is going to have to shoot it.

It was an exciting game. That's what you want in the playoffs. Plus, Steelers have had their share of runs lately. Now if only Brady can get bumped off...

[MadtownPacker]

It was an exciting game. That's what you want in the playoffs. Plus, Steelers have had their share of runs lately. Now if only Brady can get bumped off...

Preach it hermano!!!

[Freak Out]

Highest rated Wild Card game in the last 24 years.

[MadtownPacker]

Highest rated Wild Card game in the last 24 years.

Did anyone mention he had 316 passing yards? Like psalm 3:16?

What you gotta say about that Aussie?

[Tarlam!]

Did anyone mention he had 316 passing yards? Like psalm 3:16?

What you gotta say about that Aussie?

For those not fluent "God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

It wasn't lost on me when I saw the number. His passing 10/21

Psalm 145 10:21: "10 All you have made will praise you, O LORD; your saints will extol you.

21 My mouth will speak in praise of the LORD. Let every creature praise his holy name for ever and ever"

Sickening.

[Fosco33]

The whole pro-life ad with his mom during the superbowl a few years ago was definitely pushing an agenda...

[Smidgeon]

The whole pro-life ad with his mom during the superbowl a few years ago was definitely pushing an agenda...

Especially with how vague it ended up being...

[mraynrand]

Did anyone mention he had 316 passing yards? Like psalm 3:16?

What you gotta say about that Aussie?

not to be a nitpicker, but it's John 3:16 - as seen in any NFL endzone during the extra point try! Funny coincidence....

[hoosier]

It was an exciting game. That's what you want in the playoffs. Plus, Steelers have had their share of runs lately. Now if only Brady can get bumped off...

Yes, bump the Patriots...but in the AFC championship game!

[pbmax]

Oh, spare me! Yeah, Tarlam, is offended. How many times does he need to repeat himself before we get the message?

Tebow is not changing and he will be a player in the league for a long time. It's a situation Tarlam can't control and instead of the histrionics and claiming that Tebow is assaulting him, it's more sensible to come back to reality and move on. Or will this thread overtake the 'Farve' thread as the longest in PR history?

I don't like Hip-Hop, the music, the values, the lyrics, but I don't whine about it constantly. I generally ignore it. I offer you and Tarlam this same advice.

I don't think ignoring it is an option, at least not in the coverage of him. Remember that Thom Brennaman thinks 10 minutes with him will make you a better person.

I don't expect Tebow to change and would be disappointed if he did for the sole purpose of placating people like me or Tarlam that don't agree with his approach.

But it drives me nuts to have his supporters use his beliefs as an tool in dissecting the football game. Just as I don't like analysis that requires reading the coaches mind, trying to draw inferences to his play from his beliefs is mostly an exercise in soft focus biography. Its just as bad when his beliefs become the prism through which each development is seen. He wasn't denied a chance to start earlier because of his beliefs, and the public and pundit disbelief in him as a QB was not a prejudice against an outspoken Christian. Similarly, not all his supporters are supporters hoping to find a spiritual role model having success in a world they deem unfriendly to their beliefs. I am not a fan of his beliefs or public approach to them, but I hope he keeps beating NFL teams left and right.

I much prefer to discuss how his strength and weaknesses cause both problems and opportunities for his opponents.

http://deadspin.com/5874203/why-the-steelers-lost-to-tim-tebow

http://deadspin.com/5874287/the-steelers-overestimated-tim-tebow-before-they-underestimated-him

[pbmax]

not to be a nitpicker, but it's John 3:16 - as seen in any NFL endzone during the extra point try! Funny coincidence....

Trivia question: Rainbow wig guy did not always cite 3:16, do you remember the other citation he used?

[Freak Out]

I don't care what Tebow says or does off the field. I've never heard him interviewed. Hell...I don't really care that much about what Rodgers says or does off the football field. I listen to a little radio....I read PR and a few other websites...that's it. I choose not to be bombarded by all the BS that the media or Tebowites throw around. It's just not important.

Man oh man....you know the NFL is loving this shit though.

[Tarlam!]

I don't care what Tebow says or does off the field. I've never heard him interviewed. Hell...I don't really care that much about what Rodgers says or does off the football field. I listen to a little radio....I read PR and a few other websites...that's it. I choose not to be bombarded by all the BS that the media or Tebowites throw around. It's just not important.

Man oh man....you know the NFL is loving this shit though.

Good for you! You aren't labile. Neither am I.

I wonder if the NFL would be so chuffed if Tebow's inceesant references to Jesus and God create another Mark David Chapman? Or if his comments provoke a Muslim terrorist cell into attacking an NFL target?

For the record, then I am done with this. My son is on the edge of 17. He says and does things that oftentimes have me barfing in my mouth. Still, I love him to death. I genuinely like Tebow the NFL underdog, the team leader, the win against all odds player. I wish him a great career in the league. I just wish he'd seperate church and sport. He'd be far more endearing to me if he did.