Tebow

[mraynrand]

It's no different than buying a house. If you offer what you can afford to pay for a house you want, and the seller chooses not to accept your offer, you look for a different house that fits within your budget, and the seller looks for a different buyer with more money to spend..

This is a good analogy. If you spend too much on the house, you can't buy all the other things you want - or might want in the future. Like if you need to spend more on a luxury sedan (Rodgers), or a Dodge Challenger (Finley), or a year or two of the kid's college (Jennings), you won't have the money left over. AND, if you paid more for a house than it's worth, you're going to lose when you sell it. THe analogy kinda breaks down there, but I think you might get the point. Let's hope however, that the Packers don't replace Wells with something with a leaky basement and termites.

[mraynrand]

It looks like Tebow will join the Evil Jet Empire.

Good.

That will be a total fuck-up and end Ryans reign.

Tebow in NYC is like Paul at the Areopagus!

[woodbuck27]

By and large everything you wrote is completely irrelevant in that it ignores the basic fundamental of salary cap roster building - you can't always pay everyone what they want, or even what they are "worth" on the open free agent market.

I have been saying for the last couple years that the Packers were approaching the same situation they had in the mid and late '90s. Enough good young players needing to be re-signed that reliable old ones and/or some young ones looking for second contracts will be lost. That is the way salary caps are supposed to work and do work. Teams that continually find good players don't get to keep all of them as long as they might like to.

TT made an offer to Wells that fit within the Packers' salary cap planning. Wells chose not to accept it, so he left. It does not mean he was right and TT was wrong, it just means they could not agree on a price. It's no different than buying a house. If you offer what you can afford to pay for a house you want, and the seller chooses not to accept your offer, you look for a different house that fits within your budget, and the seller looks for a different buyer with more money to spend.

It's really just a simple business transaction. Sometimes it works out, sometimes not. This year, it worked with Finley but not with Wells. I said all season they would probably be able to keep only one of them, not both. Initially I figured it would be Finley that they would lose, but once I heard the low franchise number for TEs, I thought it more likely they would keep Finley.

It amazes me that fans who have followed successful teams in fixed salary cap sports still get upset and look to place blame on the team when good players are lost. Yet, that same scenario happens over and over again. Good GMs earn their keep by how they control the impact of those losses of good players. It doesn't mean immediately finding players just as good to step in for the ones who left. Sometimes it is achieved by retaining or acquiring players at other positions to improve those positions instead.

What you present here makes such good sense.I agree with you .

What I have a problem with is any spin that Scott Wells was hell bent to get out of a Packer jersey because of any disenchanted attitude. Based on his previous history as a Packer since he was drafted . That Scott Wells left Green Bay primarily because of any negativity in terms of his handling by Packer administration or coach's.

That Scott Wells maintained a negative attitude or ...as one might opinion..' have a chip on his shoulder' doesn't play. That opinion has no strength given al we know of Scott WEll Green Bay Packer.

That 'he left because he had a chip on his shoulder' implys that Scott Wells was leaving us no matter what..... based on some grudge. To take such opinion disregards TRUTH.It might even be characterized as defensive all together of Ted Thompson.

Get rid of that and we get to the TRUTH

I see too much support for the argument that Scott Wells left us because TT didn't offer him the money it would take to keep him as our center. That the Free Agent market offered Scott Wells more might have been made moot if TT had decided to resign him at a mutually agreeable price.


I agree that without more CAP space that TT had his hands tied RE: signing his starting TE and Center. We might argue .Why didn't TT clear more CAP space. I have to believe that TT has a plan and agenda based in his plan. Scott Wells didn't fit into the whole of that plan. Scott Wells was made expendable by TT's plan.

I refuse to swollow that Scott Wells left the Green Bay Packers because he had a chip on his shoulder.

[KYPack]

Tebow in NYC is like Paul at the Areopagus!

Nah. Tebow will try to be cool. He'll give Cromartie a pack of rubbers and teach Rex Ryan different ways of pronouncing "Fuck".

The guy will be like a chaplain in prison.

[gbgary]

a jet huh!?

[red]

It looks like Tebow will join the Evil Jet Empire.

Good.

That will be a total fuck-up and end Ryans reign.

that is just awesome. they already have a QB controversy because sanchez sucks. and its already a media circus there

[Cheesehead Craig]

@JayGlazer Breaking news: Ny Jets have just traded a 4th round pick for Tim Tebow

[Guiness]

@JayGlazer Breaking news: Ny Jets have just traded a 4th round pick for Tim Tebow

A three popcorn post!

[gbgary]

ha!

[RashanGary]

I cannot criticize a man that has his hands tied in terms of CAP space and what's truly available to him to make a signing possible. Given the fact of OUR CAP space why then? Ever consider certain acqisitions.

Isn't that a waste of time and if I'm missing something in this regard? School me please. Thanks. (-:

GO PACKERS !

Because UFA's get more than they are worth and Ted can get more talent for less money by drafting well and resigning his own players, especially the core ones before their contracts expire. See AR, GJ, Sitton and Tramon. Overpaying means underperforming.

It's not a take/take (get better at no loss) It's a give/take. Give up more talent for less talent. Considering everyone gets the same amount to spend, those who get the most for their money are the best teams.

The NFL is fickle. One injury and your season is done. Rather than go for broke on one season, TT seems to accumlate the most talent over time so he has many chances to win.

If you notice, it's working out pretty well. As long as TT is here, we should be one of teh best, if not the best team in the league.

[woodbuck27]

@JayGlazer Breaking news: Ny Jets have just traded a 4th round pick for Tim Tebow

They just extended Sanchez. I'm surprized at this move but ESPN's Merril Hoge got me thinking that Tim Tebow might end up in a Jet jersey.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/40069/video-tebows-fit-with-the-jets

Video: Tebow's fit with the Jets

March, 20, 2012
Mar 20 ... 8:25 PM ET

[Fritz]

Oh Jesus on a stick! Our regular 4th then. Does it really matter? Sometimes I just want to murder you and suck the marrow from your detail oriented bones.

Suck the marrow out of my detail-oriented bones? That sounds kinda sexy, Skin, but I'm not gay. But wait, I'd be dead anyway, so would it matter to me? Would my soul cringe as I looked down on you from above as you marrow suck? Or would my soul not care because it wouldn't be attached to my body any more, or would my soul decide that marrow sucking is not gay, and anyway are matters of gaiety no longer relevant to a soul unattached to a body?

I'm so confused. All this over a fourth round pick and Timmy Tebow.

[Fritz]

Nah. Tebow will try to be cool. He'll give Cromartie a pack of rubbers and teach Rex Ryan different ways of pronouncing "Fuck".

The guy will be like a chaplain in prison.

I am unfamiliar with both prisons and chaplains. Do chaplains in prison also service the prisoners?

[woodbuck27]

Nah. Tebow will try to be cool. He'll give Cromartie a pack of rubbers and teach Rex Ryan different ways of pronouncing "Fuck".

The guy will be like a chaplain in prison.

In New York!!

Tim Tebow.... in a certain circle......

Like the return of J.C.

[pbmax]

Earlier, Patler and I worried teams were being far too rational and making doing regular business difficult.

I am not so worried anymore. The Jets are loons.

Its going to look great for half a season as no one will be able to pin down what they are doing with two QBs and two different offenses. But once it gets figured out they will not be able execute efficiently enough to out perform a prepared defense.

But it will be must see TV all season long.