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    I have not seen much discussion in Packer media about the turnaround in penalty tendencies that McCarthy has engineered over the last year and a half. In 2007, 08 and 09 the Packers were either second to last or dead-assed last in penalty yards against. McCarthy was frequently quoted as being unconcerned about many of the post-snap penalties, which he saw as evidence of an aggressiveness he wanted to encourage. Last year they transformed themselves from worst to fourth best. This year they are third best in penalty yardage assessed against. My guess would be that the major improvements have come on special teams (they no longer get socked with three illegal use of hands penalities per game) and the secondary. From what I can see, the overall "aggressiveness" of those units has not suffered from the increase in disciplined play.

    My biggest reservation about McCarthy to date has been about the way he puts together his coaching staff. When coaches working with under-performing units (OL, ST) get retained and promoted it makes one wonder whether the HC puts too much premium on loyalty and not enough on accountability. But now, looking at the dramatic turnaround the team has made with penalties, I am wondering if I was mistaken. Maybe McCarthy is actually a master at analyzing his own weaknesses and transforming them.

  • #2
    McCarthy needs a cool nickname--like Hoody.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      I wouldn't mind a couple of penalties on the secondary if they would actually cover the receivers and make the occasional stop on 3rd down.
      2025 Ratpickers champion.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
        I wouldn't mind a couple of penalties on the secondary if they would actually cover the receivers and make the occasional stop on 3rd down.
        they DO make the occasional stop on 3rd down...occasionally.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
          I wouldn't mind a couple of penalties on the secondary if they would actually cover the receivers and make the occasional stop on 3rd down.
          Don't be tempted by that trade off. Woodson tried it versus the Chargers and almost let them back into the game.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            McCarthy needs a cool nickname--like Hoody.
            What's wrong with Stubby?
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
              I wouldn't mind a couple of penalties on the secondary if they would actually cover the receivers and make the occasional stop on 3rd down.
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Don't be tempted by that trade off. Woodson tried it versus the Chargers and almost let them back into the game.
              I did use the conditional that they had to cover receivers and make stops, which they weren't doing against SD. A couple of years ago, the DB's would get the occasional holding penalty, but would cover and get off the field. Now, unless there is a pick, they get off the field after the other guys get a score.
              2025 Ratpickers champion.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                What's wrong with Stubby?

                I approve
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #9
                  Sloth

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                    McCarthy needs a cool nickname--like Hoody.
                    But we don't really know if he's circumcised or not, do we?
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      But we don't really know if he's circumcised or not, do we?

                      Hence, stubby.
                      - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                      • #12
                        From the ESPN blog


                        Team Total Penalties Accepted Yards Lost
                        Detroit Lions 78 66 583
                        Minnesota Vikings 76 66 556
                        Chicago Bears 69 63 481
                        Green Bay Packers 54 44 320

                        It is a big turn around being top 5 in the league in fewest penalties last year and so far this year as opposed to
                        dead last a couple years ago.
                        "I know what I do to make sense of the world - or if not make sense of it, keep busy to be scared there is no sense."

                        Move over Jerry Jones , There's some new owners in town!!!

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                        • #13
                          If anything officiating has been biased TOWARDS us this season. Its amazing how much reputation carries with officials who should be calling a game straight up.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                            If anything officiating has been biased TOWARDS us this season. Its amazing how much reputation carries with officials who should be calling a game straight up.
                            Agreed. I always used to think that the officials had it out for us. Now, this year, it seems we get the calls the championship teams get. NFL aiding an amazing product - gotta love it!

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                            • #15
                              All hail the Stubster!
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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