Marshall Newhouse: Best Backup Tackle Since ...?

[Gunakor]

You are 100% correct for the 2010 season. Was clifton that dominante this year prior to injury?

Aside from the more-frequent-than-I'd-like holding or false start penalty, he was pretty damn good this year until he got hurt. Not as dominant as he was in September 2010, but far better than Newhouse in November 2011.

[pbmax]

Amazing job considering only a few years ago their experiments with Barbre as a starter were far far far far far far far far far worse.

On another note, it is an amazing coincidence that an award named "Bruce Wilkerson ..." was won by someone named Bruce Wilkerson. How often does that happen?

Its a rare honor, but Wilkerson ('96) deserved it. It was going to be named after Ryan Longwell ('97) until the Applebees comment.

Flanagan won the award in 2002 and it remains one of the most amazing accomplishments I have ever witnessed. You could make a strong case for him, though he was a starter at another position and in my mind that makes him ineligible.

My vote for the previous best backup is Barry Stokes. Eventually became a starter with the Browns I think.

[pbmax]

Chad Clifton stoned Jared Allen last season. Stopped him cold. Not a sack, not a goddamn tackle. If we are to measure our linemen against the best the NFL has to offer, Chad Clifton is very obviously the best left tackle on our roster. If he's healthy he starts. Newhouse is his backup.

Allen did have a sack in the game at the Dome, but no idea where he lined up on the play. Also had one QB hit in each game. Not bad by Cliffy, who clearly struggled at times last year.

[Pugger]

Allen can make a lot of veteran tackles look bad but I would feel a lot better if Cliffy was in there on Thanksgiving and when we face the bares and Peppers again later on.

[LEWCWA]

Cliffy is an old wiley vet and will nut it up for one last go around! When healthy he will be fresh and help this team finish strong. Newhouse is a young talented player, still going through some growing pains...teams have tape on him now and are exposing some of his weaknesses, but i'm sure in time he will adjust and improve. We have 2 capable guys right now with the hope that Sherrod won't be a bust. This team is in good position going foward.

Isn't it awsome that we are bitching about our OL, after putting up 45 points! What a problem to have,LOL.

[Upnorth]

Cliffy is an old wiley vet and will nut it up for one last go around! When healthy he will be fresh and help this team finish strong. Newhouse is a young talented player, still going through some growing pains...teams have tape on him now and are exposing some of his weaknesses, but i'm sure in time he will adjust and improve. We have 2 capable guys right now with the hope that Sherrod won't be a bust. This team is in good position going foward.

Isn't it awsome that we are bitching about our OL, after putting up 45 points! What a problem to have,LOL.

1st world problems man. Its not just that we are bitching about our oline, we are bitching about whether one started is better than another, and both of them are quite good!
Ted for President!!! (But not till the packers have 7 sb's)

[hoosier]

I just realized that there is actually a real backup--no starter switched over from another position here--in recent Packer history who is clearly better than Newhouse. It won't even be close, as Brandon would say. Mark Tauscher, who became a starter in the third game of his rookie season after Earl Dotson's bad back finally gave out on him. Problem is, Tauscher was so good that he made everyone forget he had been a backup.

[gbgary]

The coveted Bruce Wilkerson Thanks for Saving Our Ass award in 2011. Previous winners include Bruce Wilkerson, Ahman Green and Howard Green.

this is great! you must start a thread with this. (i won't put a detour sign in the middle of this thread this time)

[Harlan Huckleby]

was Tootie Robbins a super sub?

[pbmax]

I just realized that there is actually a real backup--no starter switched over from another position here--in recent Packer history who is clearly better than Newhouse. It won't even be close, as Brandon would say. Mark Tauscher, who became a starter in the third game of his rookie season after Earl Dotson's bad back finally gave out on him. Problem is, Tauscher was so good that he made everyone forget he had been a backup.

Tauscher is an excellent choice. I would give Newhouse an edge because he seemingly can play left and right, but he would need to play for quite a while to match Tasucher's impact as a starter. But he might log more meaningful time as a backup is Sherrod pans out.

[mraynrand]

I just realized that there is actually a real backup--no starter switched over from another position here--in recent Packer history who is clearly better than Newhouse. It won't even be close, as Brandon would say. Mark Tauscher, who became a starter in the third game of his rookie season after Earl Dotson's bad back finally gave out on him. Problem is, Tauscher was so good that he made everyone forget he had been a backup.

I think Clifton was a better backup - on the other side. He ended up starting 10 games in 2000 for Wahle, who was ineffective (calf strain?)

[hoosier]

I think Clifton was a better backup - on the other side. He ended up starting 10 games in 2000 for Wahle, who was ineffective (calf strain?)

Nah, Clifton was a starter from the day he was drafted. They were just grooming him for the first half of the season. Tauscher, on the other hand, he was the Platonic Idea of the Backup.

[pbmax]

I think Clifton was a better backup - on the other side. He ended up starting 10 games in 2000 for Wahle, who was ineffective (calf strain?)

Nice choice as well, though like Tauscher, he spent an initial period as backup and then never again dropped in the depth chart.

And speaking of the O line in 2000, despite the fact that it had previously gone to seed in the couple of years prior, Ross Verba wasn't a bad player at all. He wasn't quite a left tackle, but a heck of a guard.

Tootie Robbins started 15 games in 92 and 11 in 1993 according to pro football reference. Packers.com has him on record for 27 games, so perhaps he missed one start?

[pbmax]

Nah, Clifton was a starter from the day he was drafted. They were just grooming him for the first half of the season. Tauscher, on the other hand, he was the Platonic Idea of the Backup.

I remember becoming less and less concerned that Dotson get healthy fast. To the point where I was surprised to learn he was healthy.

[pbmax]

Those pointing to improvement of Newhouse v Allen in the rematch have an ally in McGinn who said in today's paper: "On the other side Allen was double-teamed on 36% of dropbacks and didn't dominate Marshall Newhouse as he did in their first meeting."

Though I claim vindication that he got double team help in the second half.