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funny Jordy Nelson article...
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The drops were a one year thing. He had very good hands before that. He's back to his sure-handed ways. Different story for the guy some thought had more upside than Jordy.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostGood thing he made up for it with his 9 catches go for a buck 40 with a TD."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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In several categories Newton has a not insignificant lead (completion percentage, yards and yards per attempt), and he is within 1 TD of Russell, especially impressive given that he has 6 less games. And I think a 7% edge in completion percentage might be the most important, perhaps along with yards per attempt, which is related. His numbers and rating suffer from far too many interceptions. There is also the fact (and yes, I know you did not argue otherwise) that Russell just seemed to get worse as he went on. Given the attempts and the number of games, Newton is being asked to do more for Carolina and is mostly delivering (including INTs).Originally posted by SkinBasket View PostWhat exactly makes you say "FAR superior?" Because I see some pretty comparable results. Again, you can argue style and personality all you want, but their results have been pretty similar, and I would argue that results are what this league is about. Thus: Jordy Nelson, who many here were unwilling to place above James Jones neigh a year ago.
Given what Newton accomplished with a short training camp (including no OTAs or minicamps-something Russell would have had twice), I think Newton is ahead of Russell's curve. And I think his reported work ethic (the reverse of Russell apparently) argues that he will improve in INTs, especially as his offense improves. Unlike Russell, Newton was a full time starter for a single year in college. That fact actually is a predictor of failure in college QBs overall, but given his early success, it might work to his advantage as there are probably many things to improve on.
There is definitely a visual factor here, and it has nothing to do with his skin color or style. He looks more like an NFL QB than I expected. In fact, the only thing keeping me from being more emphatic is that my original estimation of him was so far off that I am not sure I haven't swung too far to the other extreme. He looks precisely like an NFL caliber QB should. He can move and throw and his arm allows him to reach any route. The game doesn't seem too big for him and he looks close to what he was in college, which is impressive, since the offenses were different. There is little nervousness with him in the pocket.
I was just flat impressed with his game against the Packers. Compared to Ponder, he is much closer to being a threat. As we know from Rodgers first year as a starter and the continued inability of the Packers to win a close game, the team can sometimes betray the QB. With work, I think he will be frightening to play against.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Quite right, though I never thought I would be rooting for a Japanese battleship.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostApples and Oranges. X-men is edgy awesomeness. That old school Japanimation is just hokey/camp.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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The battleship. Right.Originally posted by pbmax View PostQuite right, though I never thought I would be rooting for a Japanese battleship.
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So long as it does not turn out like the epic scatstorm Transformers series!Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View PostThundercats kick ass!
So staying on topic, the thing that most impresses me about Newton is his YPA. It is high for rookies and that (coupled with his completion %) tells me he will be a very good to great QB in this league. Keeping that in mind I still see Dalton as having a better rookie campaign (so far) due to way to many turnovers by Newton.
Also staying on topic, Finley is a valuable asset to this team and I love seeing him on the feild. He is a great target, but some of his recent drops look like he is either trying to make a move before securing the ball or is worried about the big hit. The first can be coached up, the second is worrying.
Finally staying on topic, Cobb looks like he will be an amazing player when he keeps concentration. He is a fearless returner and a dedicated runner when in possesion of the ball. Great pickup by TT. He will make saying good bye to 80 at some point a little easier to bear.
That is all.
P.S. That Nelson guy, hes white, who woulda thunk it.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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you forgot about donald driver and thanksgiving football watching plans.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostSo long as it does not turn out like the epic scatstorm Transformers series!
So staying on topic, the thing that most impresses me about Newton is his YPA. It is high for rookies and that (coupled with his completion %) tells me he will be a very good to great QB in this league. Keeping that in mind I still see Dalton as having a better rookie campaign (so far) due to way to many turnovers by Newton.
Also staying on topic, Finley is a valuable asset to this team and I love seeing him on the feild. He is a great target, but some of his recent drops look like he is either trying to make a move before securing the ball or is worried about the big hit. The first can be coached up, the second is worrying.
Finally staying on topic, Cobb looks like he will be an amazing player when he keeps concentration. He is a fearless returner and a dedicated runner when in possesion of the ball. Great pickup by TT. He will make saying good bye to 80 at some point a little easier to bear.
That is all.
P.S. That Nelson guy, hes white, who woulda thunk it.
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The concentration thing only seems to happen on KR/PR. I don't recall him looking upfield so much when catching passes.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostSo long as it does not turn out like the epic scatstorm Transformers series!
So staying on topic, the thing that most impresses me about Newton is his YPA. It is high for rookies and that (coupled with his completion %) tells me he will be a very good to great QB in this league. Keeping that in mind I still see Dalton as having a better rookie campaign (so far) due to way to many turnovers by Newton.
Also staying on topic, Finley is a valuable asset to this team and I love seeing him on the feild. He is a great target, but some of his recent drops look like he is either trying to make a move before securing the ball or is worried about the big hit. The first can be coached up, the second is worrying.
Finally staying on topic, Cobb looks like he will be an amazing player when he keeps concentration. He is a fearless returner and a dedicated runner when in possesion of the ball. Great pickup by TT. He will make saying good bye to 80 at some point a little easier to bear.
That is all.
P.S. That Nelson guy, hes white, who woulda thunk it.
He'll get it sorted though, I have little doubt of that.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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I never really understood how Trixie was allowed into G-force. Was it because she could fly a helicopter and saved Speedracer's ass all the time?Originally posted by Guiness View Post


BTW, Racer X is secretly Speed's brother."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Gives a whole new meaning to the 'Wave motion gun.'Originally posted by George Cumby View Post"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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OK. I want to take the cartoon thread off track. I have been conducted an informal poll to help us compare Jordy to receivers regardless of color. Looking for the true best match. Here are the most common suggestions so far:
John Stallworth and John Taylor. Its possible that my sample was just thinking about #2 WRs. But both Stallworth and Taylor specialized in getting deep, but could run other routes as became apparent later in their careers.
Honorable mention: Chris Collingsworth. Maybe KYPack or Rand can help me remember, but Chris C was pretty fast in his day, but he did not just run fly and post routes like Corey Bradford or Schroeder. But I almost remember Collinsworth running over the middle quite a bit (and getting concussed) because he was sharing the field with Eddie Brown and Issac Curtis. Anyone lend some context here?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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