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  • #16
    the option is not the long term answer for an NFL QB. Perhaps they are doing what is in Tebow's best interest and trying to make him an NFL QB. Perhaps they will use the option to surprise a defense, because it has never worked in the NFL as a staple of the offense.
    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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    • #17
      John Fox is an outstanding coach. He's just getting all he can out of what he has.

      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #18
        Do any of you think Denver threw Tebow out there assuming he would fail? That way they shut up the fans that have been clamoring for him to play and they end up with a top 5 pick and maybe their future QB. If that was the case, it backfired...badly. 4-1 with Tebow as the starter. In Tim we trust!
        My house is in Georgia but Wisconsin is my home.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by AtlPackFan View Post
          Do any of you think Denver threw Tebow out there assuming he would fail? That way they shut up the fans that have been clamoring for him to play and they end up with a top 5 pick and maybe their future QB. If that was the case, it backfired...badly. 4-1 with Tebow as the starter. In Tim we trust!
          Absolutely I think Fox did that. And then he barely calls plays that Tebow can run and wanted to point and say "See, he failed running his own option plays."

          I don't think the option can be successful long-term in the NFL, but that's part of why it is fun to watch Tebow play and actually make it work. It's so unorthodox to see it in the NFL.

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          • #20
            I think Denver should have to play all their games on Thursday night under the dim lights of the nfl network. Then, on Friday morning, I just have to remember not to open espn.com/nfl and skip over the last page of the sports section. Voila, Tebow is as good as gone.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
              Tebow is the NFL player I am most sick of hearing about. Can he please just retire tomorrow?
              Once his lack of passing skills catch up with him and he begins to struggle and not pull these games out of his ass we won't be hearing about him like we are now.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                I think Denver should have to play all their games on Thursday night under the dim lights of the nfl network. Then, on Friday morning, I just have to remember not to open espn.com/nfl and skip over the last page of the sports section. Voila, Tebow is as good as gone.
                Good strategy. You wouldn't want to damage your fragile self. Close off the avenues of interaction with the cruel and unrelenting Tebow-saturated popular culture! Oh, the consternation, the agony, the awful calamity of being exposed to The Tebow! Oh, the HUMANITY! Perhaps turn off the TV forever! Nevermore to hear the sonorous, sublime, and socially conscious singing and sexual permutations of Glee, or the rapturous, rapacious, anti-Republican rhetoric of John Stewart! O, Bitter Victory!
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #23
                  Tebow aint doing shit, have they even broke 20 points in a game with him at QB? Denver's defense is the reason they are winning games right now.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                    Tebow aint doing shit, have they even broke 20 points in a game with him at QB? Denver's defense is the reason they are winning games right now.
                    +1

                    Also if they called a ton of option plays it would not be as effective as the d would key in on it. (39 obaloo)
                    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                    George Orwell

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                    • #25
                      John Fox doesn't call the offense, but yes, he is a bullshitter when it comes to the media. And he's good at it. He's very good at saying a lot without giving out much away.

                      I don't think they put Tebow in there to deliberately make him fail. If they really wanted to go that route, they'd make him drop back to throw 30 times a game. They needed to evaluate what they were going to do with him going forward and knew that Orton wasn't going to be their future QB. That's why he's starting. If they weren't winning games, they'd be taking a look at Brady Quinn by now.
                      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by channtheman View Post
                        They only ran 3 option plays. Not enough of a true Tebow offense.
                        I call bullshit on this post.

                        I watched two series in a row for Denver and they ran the read option 4 times in 6 plays. Ask the Denver running back who got blown up by Bart Scott (of course he bobbled a poor pitch from Tebow).

                        Just because the QB isn't rolling 10 yards right or left of the center when he flips the ball doesn't mean they aren't running the option.
                        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                          I call bullshit on this post.

                          I watched two series in a row for Denver and they ran the read option 4 times in 6 plays. Ask the Denver running back who got blown up by Bart Scott (of course he bobbled a poor pitch from Tebow).

                          Just because the QB isn't rolling 10 yards right or left of the center when he flips the ball doesn't mean they aren't running the option.
                          They did a different/option offense the first 2 drives I think and then the last drive. For most of the game, the offense was a standard run or a standard pass. They may have run an option more than 3 times, but not much.

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