What does Suh get?

[pbmax]

I felt bad for my friend yesterday who is a life long Lion fan. He's been trying to defend his team
for the last couple weeks and sounded so defeated after the lose. Well........not that bad.

The Lion fan I know has a new takeaway from the game;that Aaron Rodgers is now untouchable after the KVB roughing the passer.

[pbmax]

Another takeaway; the decision to keep EDS looks good compared to McDonald's preseason struggles.

[mraynrand]

The Lion fan I know has a new takeaway from the game;that Aaron Rodgers is now untouchable after the KVB roughing the passer.

He's achieved Bert Favra status

[MJZiggy]

The Lion fan I know has a new takeaway from the game;that Aaron Rodgers is now untouchable after the KVB roughing the passer.

It's about freaking time.

[gbgary]

One game and 50,000 dollars. It was bad, but it was no where near Haynesworth stomping on a guys head with his helmet off.

i agree...but you have to look at his whole body of work. he either doesn't get it or he doesn't care. either way he's got to be made to understand or care.

[channtheman]

There's at least three holding and one illegal hands to the face penalties on Detroit in just that one sequence.

Those refs were holy fucking shit bad. Pat Lee deserves a letter of apology from the NFL for that kind of bull shit. I'd like to hear the refs explanation for the ejection. I believe with every ejection they have to do some write up about why they felt it was necessary, etc.

[Gunakor]

one of goodell's deals is protecting the shield. image is very important. if this was suh's first offense i could see just one game but, with his history and having already been called in for a face-to-face with goodell just a couple of weeks ago, it should be five. he's got to learn a lesson and be made an example of.

He wasn't called in to meet with Goodell. Suh himself requested the meeting.

[MadScientist]

One think I don't want is for Suh to get a 4 game suspension, and come back for the final game against the Packers rested, pissed off and not giving a damn who he hurts because the Lions are out of the playoffs. Suspend him for 2-3 games, or 5. and give him a full battery of drug test to see if he has some sort of roid-rage going on.

[gbgary]

He wasn't called in to meet with Goodell. Suh himself requested the meeting.

heard that a few of hours ago. it was never put that way in anything i'd heard or read in the last few weeks.

[channtheman]

heard that a few of hours ago. it was never put that way in anything i'd heard or read in the last few weeks.

Suh requested the meeting. Regardless, I think having the meeting reflects extremely negatively on Suh. He just met with the commish and still comes and does this?

[gbgary]

Suh requested the meeting. Regardless, I think having the meeting reflects extremely negatively on Suh. He just met with the commish and still comes and does this?

exactly! he must have been pleading his case like he was yesterday to his coach. he can't spin his bullshit when the camera's got him cold. he's deluded or lying.

[channtheman]

Don't know if anyone else saw, but per ESPN bottom screen scroll, Suh apologized for his actions on facebook. I'll see if I can find some sort of link.

edit: found a link

http://www.facebook.com/suh90?sk=wall

Suh--

In the past few hours, I have had time to reflect on yesterday’s game and I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration.

Playing professional sports is not a game. It is a profession with great responsibility, and where performance on and off the field should never be compromised. It requires a calm and determined demeanor, which cannot be derailed by the game, referee calls, fans or other players.

I want to reiterate my commitment to working to become a better player, and professional—on and off the field. My reaction on Thursday was unacceptable. I made a mistake, and have learned from it. I hope to direct the focus back to the task at hand — by winning.

[King Friday]

Those refs were holy fucking shit bad. Pat Lee deserves a letter of apology from the NFL for that kind of bull shit.

Why? Lee threw a punch...and that is normally an automatic DQ just as much as stomping on a guy's arm. Yeah, the Lions are a bunch of dirty jackasses...just like their HC...and Lee was roughed up well beyond what should have been tolerated by the refs. It doesn't excuse a punch though. You have to be smarter than that.

[packrulz]

The Lions and Suh are backpedalling:
Lions say Suh “failed to meet the level of sportsmanship we expect”

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 25, 2011, 8:56 PM EST


A day after Ndamukong Suh was ejected from their annual Thanksgiving game, the Detroit Lions have released a statement condemning Suh for stomping on Green Bay’s Evan Dietrich-Smith.

“The on-field conduct exhibited by Ndamukong Suh that led to his ejection from yesterday’s game was unacceptable and failed to meet the level of sportsmanship we expect from our players,” the statement read. “Ndamukong has made many positive contributions to the Lions on and off the field. We expect his behavior going forward to consistently reflect that high standard of professionalism.”

There was no name attached to the statement, which makes it unclear who the statement comes from: Lions owner William Clay Ford? General Manager Martin Mayhew? Coach Jim Schwartz? There’s no word on who wrote the statement, or whose opinion was being expressed.

But someone in the Lions’ front office has been talking to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s office, and the Lions know discipline is coming.

“We have been in contact with Commissioner Goodell’s office and were advised that, like any on-field matter, Thursday’s incident is subject to review by the league office and that subsequent discipline would be determined by the league office,” the statement read.

For his part, Suh has changed his tone from defiant to apologetic, writing on Facebook today that he’s sorry for what he did.

“In the past few hours, I have had time to reflect on yesterday’s game and I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration,” Suh wrote Friday evening. “My reaction on Thursday was unacceptable. I made a mistake, and have learned from it. I hope to direct the focus back to the task at hand — by winning.”

The NFL is expected to inform Suh of his discipline by Tuesday.


I think he'll be suspended for 3 games.

[Fritz]

I have a few thoughts on various posts here....

First, regarding Suh's "new and improved" Facebook apology: if you read it carefully, it's a cleaned-up statement of what he said after the game. Note that he says that "I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration.” He also says about professional sports that "It requires a calm and determined demeanor, which cannot be derailed by the game, referee calls, fans or other players."

This is similar to what he said after the game about apologizing only to his teammates and organization and fans for letting them down - he's not apologizing for having a dickhead moment; he's not apologizing to the world. He's apologizing that he let the bad ref calls and the other players' actions push him over the edge. I still don't really see him taking responsibility. To me, some pubic relations guy (yes, pubic) wrote this up for Suh, and Suh made sure that the parts about apologizing only to his team and "his" fans and that he was nudged into his actions remained implicit in whatever public apology (pubic apology?) he issued.

But I think he'll get a $50,000 fine and one game.

I also am glad that Schvantz is mis-handling this. Not to dust up old dirt, but I think TT cemented control of Green Bay's team when he held Favre accountable for his constant wishy-washy attitude about coming back. The easiest thing in the world woulda been for TT to allow Favre to remain retired until after mini-camps, then rejoice publicly when Favre returned for camp. But TT drew a line with the popular superstar, and in the end it was best for the team and for Thompson's ability to do his job. I think Schvantz, by letting the league handle it, is nurturing Suh's petulant defensiveness, and in doing so there's a chipping away of Schvantz's control of the team.

Marshall Faulk and a couple others have noted that Suh tends to lash out when teams are able to contain him. And does he get held and abused constantly? Sure. But what good defensive lineman doesn't? Is EDS noted for grabbing and holding? Sure, but so's Dominic Raiola of the Lions. I think Suh is very, very used to getting his way, and when he doesn't someone else has to pay.

Finally, please note PBMax's post about how the Leos fans are taking all this "dirty Lions" talk: many of them have decided that what all this means is that Aaron Rodgers gets preferential treatment now. I listen to the Detroit sports talk stuff, and many callers are arguing that Suh was being held and grabbed all day and what he did looks bad but is understandable, though he shouldn't have done it - because it hurt the team. It's weird here. The fans are simultaneously whining about the Lions unfairly having a bad reputation and being punished for it and crowing about their team's nastiness.

Do not feel sorry for Lions' fans. Sure, when the team is bad for so long you're tempted to feel badly for them, but the second they get a whiff of a winning team, they become unsufferable. They are now feeling put-upon by refs, the media, and the world.