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What does Suh get?
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I haven't got a clue what a correct punishment should be; Goodell's rulings have been all over the place since he became comish, so it's difficult to predict what will happen. What I do know is that judging based on result is a dangerous way of working. Do you think he should be punished more severe if blood had flown?Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostSo you think he should get more than 2 games? haha and nice catch on the stitches typo
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I agree. Penalizing based on how badly someone is hurt is a bad way to go about things. I think since Haynseworth got 5 for his stomp, Suh should get that, especially since he met with Goodell and has a bad history of not learning. He needs something that will teach him. A big suspension might be just that.Originally posted by wootah View PostI haven't got a clue what a correct punishment should be; Goodell's rulings have been all over the place since he became comish, so it's difficult to predict what will happen. What I do know is that judging based on result is a dangerous way of working. Do you think he should be punished more severe if blood had flown?
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A punch isn't automatic disqualification. It can be, but it's within the rules to allow a ref to keep the guy in.Originally posted by King Friday View PostWhy? Lee threw a punch...and that is normally an automatic DQ just as much as stomping on a guy's arm. Yeah, the Lions are a bunch of dirty jackasses...just like their HC...and Lee was roughed up well beyond what should have been tolerated by the refs. It doesn't excuse a punch though. You have to be smarter than that.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Precisely. Its one, very legitimate reason he should not be his own appeals court for Personal Conduct. In the realm of on field rulings, they have been a mess as well.Originally posted by wootah View PostGoodell's rulings have been all over the place since he became comish, so it's difficult to predict what will happen.
Good ol' Rog flies too much by the seat of his pants.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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$75,000 and 3 games.
Suh has shown zero inclination to accept responsibility. Your average kindergartener displays more sophisticated moral reasoning than Suh has shown. He called for the meeting with Goodell, ostensibly, to help clarify the confusing expectations for play within the rules: he wasn't seeing the connection between ripping the helmets off of quarterbacks and yellow flags.
Since Suh has an astonishing inability to reference any point of view other than his own, the consequences need to escalate rapidly.
$75K and 3 games.
Suh has the body of a god, the mind of a man, and the moral reasoning of a child. Goodell has talked to this goon face to face and knows all too well what a tool the guy is. A shock collar, though possibly effective on an organism that operates at such a basic level of moral reasoning, would be out of the question for many good reasons. A three game suspension might get the attention of the coaches, although I doubt it will have much effect on the stompmeister.
$75,000 and 3 games.Last edited by swede; 11-26-2011, 10:25 PM.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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IMO he'll get no more than two games
Probably a 75-100G fine
I would not be surprised at all if he gets 1 game....I'm about 50-50 as to whether it'll be one or twoTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Thing is though, it's not meant to be a comparison dealio. His actions need to be addressed for what he did Thursday and nothing elseOriginally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostOne game and 50,000 dollars. It was bad, but it was no where near Haynesworth stomping on a guys head with his helmet off.
"BUSTED" is all i read there. He knows he's screwed and gonna take a significant fine and/or suspension, and he's just trying to sound like he's not the bad guy.Originally posted by channtheman View PostDon't know if anyone else saw, but per ESPN bottom screen scroll, Suh apologized for his actions on facebook. I'll see if I can find some sort of link.
edit: found a link
Suh--
In the past few hours, I have had time to reflect on yesterday’s game and I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration.
Playing professional sports is not a game. It is a profession with great responsibility, and where performance on and off the field should never be compromised. It requires a calm and determined demeanor, which cannot be derailed by the game, referee calls, fans or other players.
I want to reiterate my commitment to working to become a better player, and professional—on and off the field. My reaction on Thursday was unacceptable. I made a mistake, and have learned from it. I hope to direct the focus back to the task at hand — by winning.The Bottom Line:
Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3
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It's hard to say. If Goodell comes down in a way that's seen as too hard, then Suh becomes a sympathetic figure and that's not what the league wants since the guy has shown no remorse. Too soft and Suh will be back at it soon enough.
It would be highly interesting to see what The Schvantz would do if Suh is not suspended at all. He did, after all, bench his starting right tackle for a game - or at least a good part of it - for a dumb penalty at the end of the Leos' Tampa Bay game."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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It was all just a big understanding. Goodell said, "You need to stop doing so much harm", but Suh thought he said "You need to stomp on somebody's arm".Originally posted by Scott Campbell View PostObviously the meeting with Goodell worked. Ok, maybe it didn't.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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The league could look at this almost like two separate incidents. First, while both were on the ground, Suh slammed ED-S's head and helmet into the ground three times. Then, after getting up and with ED-S still on the ground, almost as an afterthought Suh turned back and stomped on ED-S's arm. It really was not one continuous act.
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