What does Suh get?

[pbmax]

It appears to be just speculation on PFT's part:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...orrow/related/

As to Suh, it’s possible that the league would prefer to have the suspension reduced from two games to one, since that would demonstrate to the players, the media, and the fans that the appeal process is meaningful and independent.

Florio has been all over the board with this one and every time he posts one bit of news and then speculates, he hits another dead end.

The part about the Commish urging him to appeal (along with the NFLPA) and to do it quickly was from Adam Schefter, apparently. But in Florio's hands, it became just the NFLPA encourage him in order to be sure future players in the future do not receive any suspension for similar behavior.

His mention on the PA's motivation was speculation (he mentioned no rumor or source) and it was mainly a swipe at the bad PR the PA was taking over HGH testing.

He later amended the item to include the Commish's offer to expedite the hearing, but never gave any reasonable thought to why the NFLPA is interested.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/29/suhs-willingness-to-sit-on-sunday-night-could-be-a-leverage-pla/

[LP]

I imagine they want a clear demarcation that an ejection in a game does not immediately trigger a suspension. This ground probably has been covered before (Haynesworth and any other run of the mill ejection) but perhaps with a new CBA, there are new precedents to set.

Pat Lee isn't being suspended, so that should be cleared up.

As far as his apologies, I still believe he doesn't think he did anything wrong. Everything has been straight from the PR dept with his name attached. The fact that they took so long says Detroit's front office still isn't quite there yet. Just like the product on the field.

[Smidgeon]

then make it three games.

+1 If the league (NFL & NFLPA) are intent on making sure the game is respected, then the appeal should have the possibility of saying the suspension was not enough. Instead, the NFLPA is protecting one of its star players instead of representing most of the players who have made their opinions known. Oh well. I guess it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things.

[pbmax]

Pat Lee isn't being suspended, so that should be cleared up.

As far as his apologies, I still believe he doesn't think he did anything wrong. Everything has been straight from the PR dept with his name attached. The fact that they took so long says Detroit's front office still isn't quite there yet. Just like the product on the field.

Quite right. but precedent is set in two ways. When you don't do something and then when you do something. And the NFLPA could be intererted in getting the "why" down on paper during the Suh appeal when they do it.

[Guiness]

Does anyone have video of the actual play before the event?

I saw some claims (from Lions fans, of course) that EDS swiped at his knees, tried to injure him, etc. Did anyone see anything that showed EDS doing anything untowards? Anything that might have made him lose his cool?

Not an excuse, and even if Smith did, Suh should apologize for going over the line, I'm just curious what set him off. If it was just getting beat, and some run of the mill holding, we're definitely going to see this out of him again.

[sharpe1027]

Does anyone have video of the actual play before the event?

I saw some claims (from Lions fans, of course) that EDS swiped at his knees, tried to injure him, etc. Did anyone see anything that showed EDS doing anything untowards? Anything that might have made him lose his cool?

Not an excuse, and even if Smith did, Suh should apologize for going over the line, I'm just curious what set him off. If it was just getting beat, and some run of the mill holding, we're definitely going to see this out of him again.

I don't know about the play before, but on the play it happened, Suh was the one that threw EDS to the ground. Look at the 49 sec mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDmCVSnn1U

[Fritz]

Don't forget too that by this point in the game Suh has already ripped Josh Sitton's helmet off him.

[gbgary]

Don't forget too that by this point in the game Suh has already ripped Josh Sitton's helmet off him.

he's a helmet grabbing muthafuk.

[Guiness]

I don't know about the play before, but on the play it happened, Suh was the one that threw EDS to the ground. Look at the 49 sec mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDmCVSnn1U

Not a lot to go on there with all the bodies in the way, but it does look like he took EDS to the ground. Smith may have had a hold of the back of his shoulderpads and dragged him down on top of him.

[pbmax]

I don't know about the play before, but on the play it happened, Suh was the one that threw EDS to the ground. Look at the 49 sec mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXDmCVSnn1U

On that play, there is no shot at his knees that I saw but EDS did shove him ALL the way to the ground, bent a bit, when Suh first hit the ground.

That's just old fashioned finishing your block there boys. And I am pretty sure that is what Suh was objecting to.

[mraynrand]

On that play, there is no shot at his knees that I saw but EDS did shove him ALL the way to the ground, bent a bit, when Suh first hit the ground.

That's just old fashioned finishing your block there boys. And I am pretty sure that is what Suh was objecting to.

[pbmax]

Speaking of pwned, Suh's appeal denied. He's out the Saints and Vikes.

[Upnorth]

Poo deserves more, however next time should be a doozy. So does he go head hunting in wk 17? I usually don't like penalties, but I hope we get a quick draw crew for that game.

[MadtownPacker]

Speaking of pwned, Suh's appeal denied. He's out the Saints and Vikes.

I guess God and the appeal board didn't agree.

[Deputy Nutz]

They rarely do, especially in your case.