The Moll train?!?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Patler,

You aren't going to convince me that for a large majority of players money isn't the primary factor. Sorry! I tend to agree with you, but not on this one. Sure, there are players that will stay put for similar money, and there is a smaller group that will go somewhere for less money than other places. That's the exception... not the rule.

[Patler]

CLIFF OUTSMARTED US ALL ON WAHLE.

FROM THE GET GO CRISTL SAID YOU DON'T LET A 26YR OLD STAR AT HIS POSITION GO FREELY INTO FA.

HE WAS RIGHT.

But you can't always stop it. Hutchinson, Bentley, Kearse were all just as young and just as accomplished, or more so than Wahle, and left in free agency.

[Patler]

Patler,

You aren't going to convince me that for a large majority of players money isn't the primary factor. Sorry! I tend to agree with you, but not on this one. Sure, there are players that will stay put for similar money, and there is a smaller group that will go somewhere for less money than other places. That's the exception... not the rule.

I don't have nearly as strong a belief as you do about the strength of money as a motivating factor, especially for people who will not want financially regardless of their decision. I have too many personal experiences that contradict that.

[MuttnJeff]

I think Packers are taking s serious look at Moll at guard.

Colledge could very well be Adrian Klemm II, another left tackle that Thompson declared to be a guard. Both Colledge and Klemm are said to be athletic, good feet, but kinda top-heavy. Sounds like left tackle to me.

The good news is that the Packers may have found their backup LT in Colledge. And maybe that's where Colledge ought to be. Clifton is getting old and vulnerable to injury, developing a replacement is important.

[Partial]

I think Packers are taking s serious look at Moll at guard.

Colledge could very well be Adrian Klemm II, another left tackle that Thompson declared to be a guard. Both Colledge and Klemm are said to be athletic, good feet, but kinda top-heavy. Sounds like left tackle to me.

The good news is that the Packers may have found their backup LT in Colledge. And maybe that's where Colledge ought to be. Clifton is getting old and vulnerable to injury, developing a replacement is important.

I think the difference between a guard and tackle seems to be much lesser schematically then it was in the old scheme. At least in the sense of run blocking. Klemm did't appear to have too many problems in pass blocking.

[MuttnJeff]

A left tackle has to deal with defensive ends in space. A guard has to be able to hold ground against 325 pound defensive tackle. The skills are going to be different for the positions in any scheme. I'm sure there are some guys who can play either position. But I doubt, for instance, that Clifton would be a good guard. Colledge might be better at LT.