Erik Walden arrested?

[gbgary]

I would slug a woman, but not one with glasses.

had to draw the line somewhere.

[Joemailman]

I would slug a woman, but not one with glasses.

Me either.

[GrnBay007]

zig...some guys will take a load of shit from some women just as some women will take a load from some men. it's love, dependency, jealousy, power, fear...all or in part. there's no explaining it.

So throw them both in jail for a week and put a No Contact Order on them. Problem solved and both had 7 days in the cell to reflect on their life and what kind of person they want to be. Maybe even make them write a 10 page paper on the subject.

Judges need to get more creative IMO.

[Fritz]

So throw them both in jail for a week and put a No Contact Order on them. Problem solved and both had 7 days in the cell to reflect on their life and what kind of person they want to be. Maybe even make them write a 10 page paper on the subject.

Judges need to get more creative IMO.

I like this! And for every sentence or punctuation error, another day in jail. A badly organized essay costs you an extra week in the clink. An essay lacking a thesis and you're doing heavy time in the penitentiary.

[pbmax]

Oh, no no. I have enough trouble thinking of a night in jail as an adult timeout when the police do not know the entire story or cannot ascertain indisputable facts as it is. No extending this idea to a week.

I understand that the police cannot keep the confidence of the public long if they come across an abusive situation, do nothing, and then learn something truly horrible occurs afterward. So I am willing to abide the one night (even the weekend, though this seems ridiculous as does the appearance in court remotely from jail). But after that, with the court, the judge and services available for all, the adults need to live on their own unless convincing evidence emerges of something more sinister.

As for Patler's list of one thousand and one permutations, the are all good reasons to keep in mind we are missing many details and cannot accurately pass judgement on Walden at this time.

But given the history and experience of domestic violence, I do not object to Walden being removed from the home or charged. Given injuries that required medical attention and the call to the authorities, it was the proper thing to do. It does not mean he is guilty of anything yet, but it was the correct step at the time. To go back to my Vespa analogy, it doesn't matter that each party might have been hitting, slapping, kicking, running, screaming and threatening each other. The result matters in this case and injuries would mean a larger degree of culpability. If, indeed, Walden did something to cause them.

[MJZiggy]

Oh, no no. I have enough trouble thinking of a night in jail as an adult timeout when the police do not know the entire story or cannot ascertain indisputable facts as it is. No extending this idea to a week.

I understand that the police cannot keep the confidence of the public long if they come across an abusive situation, do nothing, and then learn something truly horrible occurs afterward. So I am willing to abide the one night (even the weekend, though this seems ridiculous as does the appearance in court remotely from jail). But after that, with the court, the judge and services available for all, the adults need to live on their own unless convincing evidence emerges of something more sinister.

As for Patler's list of one thousand and one permutations, the are all good reasons to keep in mind we are missing many details and cannot accurately pass judgement on Walden at this time.

But given the history and experience of domestic violence, I do not object to Walden being removed from the home or charged. Given injuries that required medical attention and the call to the authorities, it was the proper thing to do. It does not mean he is guilty of anything yet, but it was the correct step at the time. To go back to my Vespa analogy, it doesn't matter that each party might have been hitting, slapping, kicking, running, screaming and threatening each other. The result matters in this case and injuries would mean a larger degree of culpability. If, indeed, Walden did something to cause them.

Thank you.

[Harlan Huckleby]

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[gbgary]

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[Patler]

Oh, no no. I have enough trouble thinking of a night in jail as an adult timeout when the police do not know the entire story or cannot ascertain indisputable facts as it is. No extending this idea to a week.

I understand that the police cannot keep the confidence of the public long if they come across an abusive situation, do nothing, and then learn something truly horrible occurs afterward. So I am willing to abide the one night (even the weekend, though this seems ridiculous as does the appearance in court remotely from jail). But after that, with the court, the judge and services available for all, the adults need to live on their own unless convincing evidence emerges of something more sinister.

As for Patler's list of one thousand and one permutations, the are all good reasons to keep in mind we are missing many details and cannot accurately pass judgement on Walden at this time.

But given the history and experience of domestic violence, I do not object to Walden being removed from the home or charged. Given injuries that required medical attention and the call to the authorities, it was the proper thing to do. It does not mean he is guilty of anything yet, but it was the correct step at the time. To go back to my Vespa analogy, it doesn't matter that each party might have been hitting, slapping, kicking, running, screaming and threatening each other. The result matters in this case and injuries would mean a larger degree of culpability. If, indeed, Walden did something to cause them.

No one has objected to the two being separated from one another until this is resolved. It is the wise thing to do.

The key phrase in your comment is the last one, and the key word is "if", which is exactly what I have been urging all along. Punish him IF he is guilty of something, not just because he is a man.

Oh, and no one should ever be actually charged with any crime just because something happened. The investigation comes first, and only if believed to be provable facts connect someone to the crime, only then should he/she be charged. It takes facts, not just mere conjecture before someone is actually charged.

[Guiness]

Oh, no no. I have enough trouble thinking of a night in jail as an adult timeout when the police do not know the entire story or cannot ascertain indisputable facts as it is. No extending this idea to a week.

I understand that the police cannot keep the confidence of the public long if they come across an abusive situation, do nothing, and then learn something truly horrible occurs afterward. So I am willing to abide the one night (even the weekend, though this seems ridiculous as does the appearance in court remotely from jail). But after that, with the court, the judge and services available for all, the adults need to live on their own unless convincing evidence emerges of something more sinister.

As for Patler's list of one thousand and one permutations, the are all good reasons to keep in mind we are missing many details and cannot accurately pass judgement on Walden at this time.

But given the history and experience of domestic violence, I do not object to Walden being removed from the home or charged. Given injuries that required medical attention and the call to the authorities, it was the proper thing to do. It does not mean he is guilty of anything yet, but it was the correct step at the time. To go back to my Vespa analogy, it doesn't matter that each party might have been hitting, slapping, kicking, running, screaming and threatening each other. The result matters in this case and injuries would mean a larger degree of culpability. If, indeed, Walden did something to cause them.

Am I missing something? You said 'given the history', not 'given a history'. That implies there is a history?

Not trying to be a grammar Nazi here, I just want to know if he has a history of domestic violence. If so, it changes a lot.

[th87]

My old roommate's GF is a total psycho. At the drop of a hat, she would fly into a violent rage and start pummeling him - kicks to the face, biting. Then she'd run outside and jump onto the roof of his car, followed by smashing the lawn mower onto the hood for good measure. Something like this happened once a week.

In one particular incident, she started to choke him. Instinctively, he grabbed her arms to disengage, which caused her to fall. She really flipped out then - that he would have the audacity to forcefully touch her - and called the cops.

He spent the night in the clink.

They are inexplicably still together.

I'm not saying Walden is innocent or guilty. But there are possible instances in which a good person stays with a psycho and/or the aggressor gets hurt.

Let's not rush to judgment.

[mraynrand]

Let's not rush to judgment.

That horse left the barn long ago

[hoosier]

That horse couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if it tried.

[George Cumby]

But what color was the horse and was he using both barrels?

[pbmax]

Am I missing something? You said 'given the history', not 'given a history'. That implies there is a history?

Not trying to be a grammar Nazi here, I just want to know if he has a history of domestic violence. If so, it changes a lot.

Meant the history overall, not just with Walden and girlfriend.