Why I Hate Packer Fans

[CaliforniaCheez]

Re: Why I Hate Packer Fans

Ok I really don't hate you, after all you are all my brothren, but come on the sharks are in a feeding frenzy because of you all jumping overboard on this team!

Okay, but you may consider the emotional impact the Packers have on their fans. Yes, I was upset but reviewing the video got me off that. Keeping the truth in mind helps.

Consider:

1. There are some high expectations for this team. Like a spouse they can cause emotional pain moreso than a stranger.
2. This was a playoff team(before Thompson arrived -that line always gets people going) and fans saw a team hold together last year with good play but poor results.
3. Massive rebuilding(especially when not needed to this extent) can be frustrating.
4. It is tougher to lower expectations than raise them.

[Willard]

I am pretty sure it is 1973 all over again. Not only will this year stink, but we may have to wait for 20+ years before seeing another competitive team in green & gold. I just heard Coach Clements was fired and MM hired Jerry Tagge to be the new QB coach. We are really screwed now!

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good thread nutz

GBRulz
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:32 am Post subject:
I hate people who can't reply to something in it's own thread and feel the need to start a new thread continuing the same discussion.

i think i've read something like this before

wait, isn't this my line from JSO that i used about 1 time a day lol

[4and12to12and4]

It has been mentioned here that we're screwed this year and is evidenced because we only scored three points saturday. Who cares. The seahawks only scored three points also, does that mean that their season is over? The Bears defense looked just as bad as ours in their game against the lowly 49ers. Does that mean that they have a terrible defense? we beat this team last year in our 1st preseason game. The fours year previous to that we lost our first preseason game and only scored three points in a couple of those. So, let's just all chill out here, and give this team some time.

By the way, I just watched the game AGAIN this morning and realized that White (the LB) had a VERY good game. He was very good at shedding blockers, and was sniffing out the ball carrier play after play. He looked GREAT out there. I hadn't noticed it before.

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also, our 1st team o and d were only trailing 7-0 when they came out. so its not like they just got crushed. and if favres pass to the endzone would have been two inches lower to driver, or if favre and jenning could have connected on the 4th the score would have been tied or at the worst 7-3 when they came out

the chargers first team scored on our second team for the second TD i think. and our snd team o was going up against a lot of their starters in the 2nd quarter. and rogers still looked good, and moved the team well

[HarveyWallbangers]

The score was not indictive of how much the Chargers first teamers (without LT) were dominating us.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Good point Harv. On offense, SD took it easy on us. Not so much for the SD defense...

tyler

[woodbuck27]

Well, might as well throw in my two cents...

Bad O-Line == Bad team.

Right now the fears of Harvey and Jack are totally warrented. That having been said, the season hasn't started and it's possible that the McCarthy and company could get it straightened out. If they don't, it's doom and gloom. If they do, they could get to .500 I think. I think the North will be a good fight this year....Bears defense rocks, Lions looked good and the Vikings did some nice things yesterday....I think it'll be tough this year.

I'm talking a lot of negative smack and I know it. I'm not trying to paint 2006 as a doom and gloom picture. To me, the reality is that the team will have mild success and much disappointment in 2006. As I suggested yesterday, I don't have high expectations for this team. After seeing some of the problem patterns from preseason to the first preseason game, I have definite concerns about areas of the team. If you want to understand that as doom and gloom, then so be it, but RastaK is right--if the lines are shaky, this team won't do anything.

RastaK is also very wise in pointing out that there's still time left in preseason to fix what is broken. There is. But not much. If we stumble into Week1 with a patchwork Oline, write 2006 off and enjoy the season with zero expectations. Brett needs a running game in order to be successful (and keep his turnovers down). Without a reliable one, it will be a long season.

tyler

That is exactly where I am today.

Of course, it's not about the 17-3 loss in a preseason game to an opponent that we won't see in 2006.

The Chargers are a very decent team, with a super "D" and with a fine young QB that stepped up on Saturday night.

It's this non-chalent we'll just wait and see thing that bugs me alot.

If I read Mike McCarthy 's statement correct an Offense? That Offense features the pass and that is nothing more than foolish - a classic error in football fundamentle's - that won't pass over any NFL fan certainly not a Packer fan.

Ziggy says that I got the 55-45% PASS to RUN ratio on Offense reversed - and I hope she's correct. That would be suicide to adopt that offensive philosophy. How long before opposing teams counter that? Not long - won't y'all agree?

By the way Deputy Nutz. Of course, your not wrong but from this fan it's got little to do with panic after one pre season loss, and all to do with OUR OL and any offensive philosophy that features the pass not the RUN. Again - maybe I read that wrong?

Now on the OL. We have major concerns that include Chad Cifton's health and the pressure again, as it was last season on Mark Tauscher, when he was easily OUR steadiest performer on the OL in 2005. Add to that, the possible loss of Samkon Gado and the fact that Ahman Green is coming of a brutal leg injury. Najeh Davenport has never had decent health as well.

That leaves Noah Herron.

It's indeed - not too late for Ted Thompson to get in gear, but he must soon get there (like in the next week or two).

We can't fix what's too broken over and over without spare
parts.

GO PACKERS ! HOLD THE FAITH FOR 2006 !!

[Deputy Nutz]

Good point Harv. On offense, SD took it easy on us. Not so much for the SD defense...

tyler

You said they took it easy on us? I guess thats why they threw the ball over twenty times. They couldn't run the ball worth a damn, but by golly they were going to beat the Packers chucking the rock. Pathetic as the pass defense was, the run defense was solid.

[Partial]

I believe holmgren used to pass more than run.. The original west coast offense was designed to have short passes to negate the need to run in particular situations and to control the clock that way.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Good point Harv. On offense, SD took it easy on us. Not so much for the SD defense...

tyler

You said they took it easy on us? I guess thats why they threw the ball over twenty times. They couldn't run the ball worth a damn, but by golly they were going to beat the Packers chucking the rock. Pathetic as the pass defense was, the run defense was solid.

I don't agree they couldn't do it "worth a damn". Turner still managed close to a 5 yd average and scored a TD. And we didn't have to face Tomlinson.

They were effective enough with the pass. Perhaps they just wanted to get Philips as much practice as possible since it was his first true time leading the team.

tyler

[Partial]

Good point Harv. On offense, SD took it easy on us. Not so much for the SD defense...

tyler

You said they took it easy on us? I guess thats why they threw the ball over twenty times. They couldn't run the ball worth a damn, but by golly they were going to beat the Packers chucking the rock. Pathetic as the pass defense was, the run defense was solid.

I don't agree they couldn't do it "worth a damn". Turner still managed close to a 5 yd average and scored a TD. And we didn't have to face Tomlinson.

They were effective enough with the pass. Perhaps they just wanted to get Philips as much practice as possible since it was his first true time leading the team.

tyler

I bet they scripted their first few plays and ran through it as a team several times. Without question, the owner of the club wanted to make Rivers look as good as humanly possible and quiet the whispers until the season starts.

[Rastak]

Good point Harv. On offense, SD took it easy on us. Not so much for the SD defense...

tyler

You said they took it easy on us? I guess thats why they threw the ball over twenty times. They couldn't run the ball worth a damn, but by golly they were going to beat the Packers chucking the rock. Pathetic as the pass defense was, the run defense was solid.

I don't agree they couldn't do it "worth a damn". Turner still managed close to a 5 yd average and scored a TD. And we didn't have to face Tomlinson.

They were effective enough with the pass. Perhaps they just wanted to get Philips as much practice as possible since it was his first true time leading the team.

tyler

I bet they scripted their first few plays and ran through it as a team several times. Without question, the owner of the club wanted to make Rivers look as good as humanly possible and quiet the whispers until the season starts.

And look good he did......

[Deputy Nutz]

Rivers going to be a good fantasy league pick, for somebody.

[Chester Marcol]

I believe holmgren used to pass more than run.. The original west coast offense was designed to have short passes to negate the need to run in particular situations and to control the clock that way.

That's the way I remember it as well. I remember hearing more than once about how the pass would set up the run. I was hoping to see a lot more dinkin and dunkin on Saturday. I pondered to my buddy about the TE's and where were they. Not sure if they were just trying to practice plays more than a game plan.

My reason for already lowering expectations for this year, the defensive ends. You can't teach pass rush and unfortunately we're looking at another year of not getting off the field on 3rd downs. The most telling defensive stat on Saturday. Sorry, but blitzing isn't the answer if no one else on the line can get pressure.