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  • #16
    Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
    Actually, I am glad they made the 2 pointer at the end. I knew that the Giants would kick deep and our O would get a chance to drive down the field and score at the end.

    I would much rather have the O on the field to win than the D on the field to win this year.
    I agree & what a weird turnaround the D has taken! It can't be all on losing Collins to injury & Jenkins to the Iggles.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
      Come on now. Finley opens up things up for others. What they say is true. And when they don't concentrate on Finley, he's open a lot. I know Driver caught two TDs, but it kind of bugged me that he appeared to take a lot of snaps from Nelson. At this point, Nelson should be in the game most of the time. Split the snaps of Driver, Jones, and Cobb. The injuries are starting to mount again. Sitton, Clifton, Starks, Hawk, Bishop, Collins, and Woodson. Ugh!

      Agree. Nelson should never come off the field. He's our best blocking WR and the way he's playing, you could make a case for him being our best receiver this year. The catches he makes are amazing and he looks like the fastest WR on our team.

      Other than Collins, all of those injuries look minor. I don't feel a lot of worry just yet. Once we start seeing injuries that will last longer than 3 or 4 weeks, then my concern will grow.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
        Come on now. Finley opens up things up for others. What they say is true. And when they don't concentrate on Finley, he's open a lot. I know Driver caught two TDs, but it kind of bugged me that he appeared to take a lot of snaps from Nelson. At this point, Nelson should be in the game most of the time. Split the snaps of Driver, Jones, and Cobb. The injuries are starting to mount again. Sitton, Clifton, Starks, Hawk, Bishop, Collins, and Woodson. Ugh!
        We need to find a way for Finley to only serve as a decoy, because his play on the field when the ball is thrown his way is embarrassing.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by channtheman View Post
          We need to find a way for Finley to only serve as a decoy, because his play on the field when the ball is thrown his way is embarrassing.
          I know he dropped 3 balls during the game but he still had 6 catches for 87 yards and a TD.

          Yes he can improve but none of our other TEs can come close to what he provides.
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            . The injuries are starting to mount again. Sitton, Clifton, Starks, Hawk, Bishop, Collins, and Woodson. Ugh!
            You forgot Quarless

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            • #21
              Originally posted by channtheman View Post
              We need to find a way for Finley to only serve as a decoy, because his play on the field when the ball is thrown his way is embarrassing.
              Actually, Finley could be having a James Jones contract year. We should be able to get him for less than if he had had 9 catches for 112 and 1 TD.
              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

              -Tim Harmston

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tarlam! View Post
                TT has invested heavily in Oline the last drafts. Next draft, I expect a DB and/or a pass rusher to replace Wood and compliment Clay.
                Even with all the investment, that OL still looks iffy. Clifton is done after this year. Is Newhouse a capable LT? You need someone to protect the franchise's blindside.

                The TOP PRIORITY is protecting Rodgers, especially with Flynn gone next year. If you do that, you will win 12 games a year with a bunch of stiffs on defense. Sure we need defensive help...but a sieve at LT isn't going to work, and that's about where we are at currently.
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                • #23
                  My biggest concern right now is our two safeties and our DL. There are a few reasons for hope and a few reasons for serious concern.

                  Concern:
                  They aren't getting enough pressure with their DL and the secondary is getting eaten alive. We could lose any game on any week against a top QB right now.

                  Woodson is finally looking like he's unable to play quality CB. If we lose TW or Shields, we could have serious, serious trouble with Bush on the field..

                  Neal doesn't look very good right now



                  Hope:
                  If you look at the length of TC and the preseason, Neal is in like Game 1 or 2 of the preseason. He could shake off some rust and play better a month from now.

                  Burnett is young and is wearing a cast. Him and Peprah have a chance to get their assignments tighter.

                  Green and Neal are starting to eat snaps from Pickett and Raji. Even though we don't have a lot of good DL, if the ones we do have are 100% in the playoffs, it could be enough.

                  Matthews seems better and better each week. Walden looked really good today too.


                  We look like front runners. If everything goes well we could be friggin dominant. If a corner gets injured, it could be the kiss of death unless we luck out and get poor passing teams along the way.



                  It's looking good, but it's the NFL. Anything could happen. We're not flawless, not by any stretch.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                    Come on now. Finley opens up things up for others
                    I dunno. Some teams concentrate on Finley in the middle (Vikings come to mind) while other teams seem to try to take away the big plays on the edge (Bears and Giants come to mind). Nelson and Jennings open up just as much for Finley as visa-versa.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                      I dunno. Some teams concentrate on Finley in the middle (Vikings come to mind) while other teams seem to try to take away the big plays on the edge (Bears and Giants come to mind). Nelson and Jennings open up just as much for Finley as visa-versa.
                      Nelson not so much. (And I like him a lot.) He gets single covered most of the time. Jennings opens up things for Finley and vice versa. That's the point. If they want to take Finley out of the game, things open up for Jennings. If they want to take Jennings out of the game, Finley is left to run roughshod over opposing LBs and safeties.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                        Even with all the investment, that OL still looks iffy. Clifton is done after this year. Is Newhouse a capable LT? You need someone to protect the franchise's blindside.

                        The TOP PRIORITY is protecting Rodgers, especially with Flynn gone next year. If you do that, you will win 12 games a year with a bunch of stiffs on defense. Sure we need defensive help...but a sieve at LT isn't going to work, and that's about where we are at currently.
                        Partially agree. If Newhouse is your guy, he's bound to get better with a full offseason working on LT fundamentals. He's 23 years old. Worst case, it looks like we have a slightly improved Newhouse next year. Sherrod is no sure thing. I'm not overly concerned, but our LT situation could look better long term. Short term, right now, that's the biggest concern for me. We're not a "next year" team at the moment. Winning XLVI comes before everything else right now for me.
                        Last edited by RashanGary; 12-04-2011, 08:44 PM.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                          Even with all the investment, that OL still looks iffy. Clifton is done after this year. Is Newhouse a capable LT? You need someone to protect the franchise's blindside.

                          The TOP PRIORITY is protecting Rodgers, especially with Flynn gone next year. If you do that, you will win 12 games a year with a bunch of stiffs on defense. Sure we need defensive help...but a sieve at LT isn't going to work, and that's about where we are at currently.
                          Sherrod is there for that. He just had not offseason and then had to learn guard as well.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                            Nelson not so much. (And I like him a lot.) He gets single covered most of the time. Jennings opens up things for Finley and vice versa. That's the point. If they want to take Finley out of the game, things open up for Jennings. If they want to take Jennings out of the game, Finley is left to run roughshod over opposing LBs and safeties.
                            THANK YOU!

                            Dude was getting covered by Will Blackmon for god sakes, hes good and all but some are going over board with his play this season.

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                            • #29
                              Agree on safeties, Burnett had a terrible, Sharper-esque attack for a tackle on the first touchdown.

                              But Peprah is the weak link. He bit hard on a play fake and allowed a pass completion that should never be made by an outside WR against Cover 2. No speed to compensate for mistakes.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                                Nelson not so much. (And I like him a lot.) He gets single covered most of the time. Jennings opens up things for Finley and vice versa. That's the point. If they want to take Finley out of the game, things open up for Jennings. If they want to take Jennings out of the game, Finley is left to run roughshod over opposing LBs and safeties.
                                Nelson and AR are dialed in. The catches he makes, the route adjustments. . . . . He reminds me a little of Gronkowski in New England. Not that they play the same game, but that they are darn talented, have great hands and are dialed in with their QB's. Nelson could be a shockingly productive WR, even more-so than Finley every year for a long time.
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