Rodgers "only PR of 107/ Ryan grant gane over after this season/ Secondary/ Pass Rush

[pbmax]

OK, we need some numbers. Because while I recall Finley not getting that ball that he then called out Rodgers on, I do not remember a lot of other rookie drops. Memory could be failing me.

And he has been notable for his lack of drops in this receiving corp to the point that it was remarkable in camp (as in Patler's quote) that he was struggling. I remember that development as new, not something that came back to haunt him.

[mraynrand]

I am busting Packerfans' balls.

I guess that's your calling. Thus the namesake...

[mraynrand]

OK, we need some numbers. Because while I recall Finley not getting that ball that he then called out Rodgers on, I do not remember a lot of other rookie drops. Memory could be failing me.

And he has been notable for his lack of drops in this receiving corp to the point that it was remarkable in camp (as in Patler's quote) that he was struggling. I remember that development as new, not something that came back to haunt him.

I think it is the ghost of Ben Steele that is haunting him.

[Smidgeon]

I think people expect too much. This is an extremely well run team, this Packers squad. Are there any complete teams in the NFL? The answer is no, there are not. But the Packers play well and in a league where the passing game has been promoted by intent and by rules to match, the Packers are the best at the craft. Finley is probably the 3rd or fourth best TE in the game, Jennings is a top 10 WR; Nelson easily in the top 32. Driver, Cobb, and Jones are very good complimentary players. And pushing the buttons is a QB as ruthlessly self-disciplined to make the correct, accurate, and safe throw as I've ever seen in the NFL. Running the show is the most underrated offensive mind in today's NFL. Any given Sunday works in the NFL, and teams get motivated for big games and big challenges. THe Packers, in an off week, with a number of starters out, took the best shot of a talented team on the road, and defeated them. The Giants can beat any team any Sunday. But they didn't beat the Packers today, because the Packers are a better team.

Well posted.

[Smidgeon]

Burnett played fairly well this game, it was Peprah who shat the bed (from my perspective). With the way Finley is dropping easy catches for a few weeks now I really am worrying about his concentration when catching in the middle. He seems to loose it just as the ball gets to him, however when he breaks to outside he catches just fine. Did he get laid out bad a few weeks ago and now is worried?

Someone else said it too, but I noticed on one that he dropped he tried to catch it with his body. Finley is a hands catcher. Maybe he's in a slump, but last year and the year before his hands were like velcro.

[Smidgeon]

OK, we need some numbers. Because while I recall Finley not getting that ball that he then called out Rodgers on, I do not remember a lot of other rookie drops. Memory could be failing me.

And he has been notable for his lack of drops in this receiving corp to the point that it was remarkable in camp (as in Patler's quote) that he was struggling. I remember that development as new, not something that came back to haunt him.

I remember someone somewhere somewhen (Patler? Waldo?) pointing out that what Finley brings to the table is exceptional mid-air body control and hands that can catch anything. He's having an off year when it comes to the drops, but I also remember the drops being new and not being him just as an "average" pass catcher.

[Zool]

Sorry I'm at work and on my iPhone but thanks for giving your 2 cents douche. Was that response 13 enough for you?

I'd go 16 with that one.

[HowardRoark]

I am busting Packerfans' balls.

Speaking of broken balls....has he joined Tex?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bottom line is that the passing game is one of the best in history because of Rodgers AND Jennings AND Finley AND Nelson AND to a lesser extent Driver, Jones, and Cobb. I'd resign Finley in a heartbeat if it's around what some of the top TEs are making now. Say around $8M/year. I think he's every bit as important as guys like Sitton, Hawk, and others on the team making that type of money. For some reason this team has been immune to just about every injury that has occured the last two years (except for Rodgers and Matthews). At least, in the win column they have been. Just because we've won without Finley, without Collins, without Woodson, without Hawk, without Bishop, etc. doesn't mean those guys aren't important to the team. Finley is an important piece. Dude makes defensive coordinators stay up late worrying about how to match up with him. He had two drops--yet still managed to affect the game in a positive way. Much the same way that Jordy had three drops in last year's Super Bowl, but managed to affect the game in a positive way.

[Upnorth]

I think we are much better with finley as well, but he is not unique. I want to resign him, but I also want his catch rate to improve. 64 is a poor catch rate, and the bread basket drops need to end. He fixes those and gets to 70 75% he is elite.

[pbmax]

Bottom line is that the passing game is one of the best in history because of Rodgers AND Jennings AND Finley AND Nelson AND to a lesser extent Driver, Jones, and Cobb. I'd resign Finley in a heartbeat if it's around what some of the top TEs are making now. Say around $8M/year. I think he's every bit as important as guys like Sitton, Hawk, and others on the team making that type of money. For some reason this team has been immune to just about every injury that has occured the last two years (except for Rodgers and Matthews). At least, in the win column they have been. Just because we've won without Finley, without Collins, without Woodson, without Hawk, without Bishop, etc. doesn't mean those guys aren't important to the team. Finley is an important piece. Dude makes defensive coordinators stay up late worrying about how to match up with him. He had two drops--yet still managed to affect the game in a positive way. Much the same way that Jordy had three drops in last year's Super Bowl, but managed to affect the game in a positive way.

The Buckeye fan and I agree on this. I would love to get him a tad under top 5 TE price, but would be OK at that number. If not, franchise that guy.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think we are much better with finley as well, but he is not unique. I want to resign him, but I also want his catch rate to improve. 64 is a poor catch rate, and the bread basket drops need to end. He fixes those and gets to 70 75% he is elite.

I think it's the exception rather than the norm. He barely played as a rookie. I don't remember him having the drops as a second year player. Last year, he was off to an AMAZING start--with an 80% catch rate on targeted balls. I think he's putting pressure on himself, and it's affecting his play. I don't think it will last. Just like I didn't think Jordy's poor drop rate from last year would last.

[Upnorth]

I think it's the exception rather than the norm. He barely played as a rookie. I don't remember him having the drops as a second year player. Last year, he was off to an AMAZING start--with an 80% catch rate on targeted balls. I think he's putting pressure on himself, and it's affecting his play. I don't think it will last. Just like I didn't think Jordy's poor drop rate from last year would last.

And if he fixes it with his agility he will be top 3 TE, until then he gives us lots of sh&t to throw at eachother.

[gbgary]

I think people expect too much. This is an extremely well run team, this Packers squad. Are there any complete teams in the NFL? The answer is no, there are not. But the Packers play well and in a league where the passing game has been promoted by intent and by rules to match, the Packers are the best at the craft. Finley is probably the 3rd or fourth best TE in the game, Jennings is a top 10 WR; Nelson easily in the top 32. Driver, Cobb, and Jones are very good complimentary players. And pushing the buttons is a QB as ruthlessly self-disciplined to make the correct, accurate, and safe throw as I've ever seen in the NFL. Running the show is the most underrated offensive mind in today's NFL. Any given Sunday works in the NFL, and teams get motivated for big games and big challenges. THe Packers, in an off week, with a number of starters out, took the best shot of a talented team on the road, and defeated them. The Giants can beat any team any Sunday. But they didn't beat the Packers today, because the Packers are a better team.

Well posted.

it's so good i wanted to put it in my sig but it's too big.

[mission]

I'd be fine giving Finley top 7 TE money tomorrow. New contact might have the Mason Crosby effect... think he's pressing and will only gets better the more he grows.