The guy can play. Start him for crying out loud.
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He's the best RB we have right now. I said that a couple weeks ago. He needs experience now before we reach the postseason. Give the kid reps. I liked what I saw of him in the preseason...ran hard and got every yard he could. He got buried on a college team with a RB posing as a QB, so never had a chance to show his stuff.
Grant is done. The guy might have great ball security, but he's simply not the same runner anymore. He's great for the 4th quarter when you don't want to fumble. Other than that, he's JAG.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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Looks good catching the ball out of the backfield, but I haven't seen anything special yet when he runs the ball. Good player though.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I liked him in preseason. Big, runs hard, fast, good hands, willing blocker. I think a Starks-Green-Saine combination could be very nice for the next few years. Well, good enough anyways."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Very nice RB trio!Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI liked him in preseason. Big, runs hard, fast, good hands, willing blocker. I think a Starks-Green-Saine combination could be very nice for the next few years. Well, good enough anyways.PackerRats Thompson D. Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2019,
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I think we've seen the ceiling for Starks. I'm not super high on him. He's OK, but he's not a game changer. I think Seine has a higher ceiling over the long term. Green...he's a complete unknown to me at this point. He seems to have all the skills, but he didn't play big time college football and seems a little behind. Time will tell with him.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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My post on Saine in the preseason. It's a bit premature, but I like him.
Saine - looked like pretty powerful with some speed and shiftiness. Always fell forward. Has nice size for pass protection. Caught the ball well. To me, he looked a heck of a lot better than Nance, and he kind of looked like what I expected Green to look like.
I checked out the combine results, and athletically Saine matches up very well with Green
Saine - 5'11" 220, 4.40 40, 2.55 20, 22 bench press reps, 34 1/2" vertical, 9'5" broad jump, 4.25 shuttle, 6.98 cone
Green - 6'0" 225, 4.45 40, 2.60 20, 20 bench press reps, 34" vertical, 9'6" broad jump, 4.15 shuttle, 6.91 cone"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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The best RB? Are we forgetting Starks? You know, the guy who hasn't had offseason training since joining the team? The guy who many say is athletic enough to split to WR and be effective? The guy who always squirts through the line for three extra yards that Saine and Grant together can't get? The guy who iced Minnesota and is the closest to a closer we have? That guy?Originally posted by King Friday View PostHe's the best RB we have right now. I said that a couple weeks ago. He needs experience now before we reach the postseason. Give the kid reps. I liked what I saw of him in the preseason...ran hard and got every yard he could. He got buried on a college team with a RB posing as a QB, so never had a chance to show his stuff.
Grant is done. The guy might have great ball security, but he's simply not the same runner anymore. He's great for the 4th quarter when you don't want to fumble. Other than that, he's JAG.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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I don't think we've seen Stark's ceiling. On a different team that is less reliant on the pass, getting 20-25 touches a game, I think Starks is a 1300 yard rusher.
He runs angry, he almost never loses yardage. Yes, he stank up the joint at Soldier Field this year, but you could see him over-thinking stuff that day.
No, I think Starks is quite good and, providing he heals up, his best days are ahead of him.
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No, we're talking about the1 touchdown in 12 games,34th in total yards Starks.Originally posted by Smidgeon View PostThe best RB? Are we forgetting Starks? You know, the guy who hasn't had offseason training since joining the team? The guy who many say is athletic enough to split to WR and be effective? The guy who always squirts through the line for three extra yards that Saine and Grant together can't get? The guy who iced Minnesota and is the closest to a closer we have? That guy?
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Tough to accumulate numbers when its a split job on a team that does not run first. He doesn't have elite speed, but I would say its likely we haven't seen him at his best. Of course, the answer to that question is almost as troubling. He has been injured.Originally posted by PA Pack Fan View PostNo, we're talking about the1 touchdown in 12 games,34th in total yards Starks.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Originally posted by Smidgeon View PostThe best RB? Are we forgetting Starks? You know, the guy who hasn't had offseason training since joining the team? The guy who many say is athletic enough to split to WR and be effective? The guy who always squirts through the line for three extra yards that Saine and Grant together can't get? The guy who iced Minnesota and is the closest to a closer we have? That guy?
I think the jury's out on what all Saine can do. It's way too premature to get Saine brain fever, but who knows, he may be as effective as Starks. I'm concerned about pass protection. If he can't pass pro, he's dog meat. Starks was starting to come around on that, but Starks has been spotty making the correct block to protect Rodgers."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I don't disagree that the jury's still out on Saine. I just saw more of Grant in Saine than I did Starks. When I first saw Starks run last year, I was surprised at how often he ended up on the far side of a pile with a few extra yards. Grant doesn't do that. And Saine didn't do that yesterday either.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostI think the jury's out on what all Saine can do. It's way too premature to get Saine brain fever, but who knows, he may be as effective as Starks. I'm concerned about pass protection. If he can't pass pro, he's dog meat. Starks was starting to come around on that, but Starks has been spotty making the correct block to protect Rodgers.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Originally posted by Smidgeon View PostI don't disagree that the jury's still out on Saine. I just saw more of Grant in Saine than I did Starks. When I first saw Starks run last year, I was surprised at how often he ended up on the far side of a pile with a few extra yards. Grant doesn't do that. And Saine didn't do that yesterday either.
Neither did Starks. Starks ran for 5 yards on 3 carries; Saine was 6 for 16. Just not enough carries to know much of anything yet on Saine, 44OBOALOO."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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