TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE AFTER A NEAR DEFEAT

[Bretsky]

1. Did the Giants Expose us as a very beatable team on Sunday

Remember a few years ago when Hoody Genius was running the show ? The Giants came in towards the end of the year, and exposed some of their weaknesses and then took them down in the Super Bowl ?

Anybody get a bit of that same feeling on Sunday ? Our secondary and lack of pass rush was abused. I'm more worried after the Giants game than I have been in a while.

Thoughts ?


2. What, if any teams would you be afraid of in terms of knocking the Pack out in the playoffs ?

Breaking things down right now, against a good team our offense in nearly unstoppable but I'm not sure our defense can stop a great offense. With that being said, right off the top of my head I see three teams I do not want to play.


NO Saints - Equal or better weapons than the Giants
Da Steelers- A maturing WR core that we'd have problems with along with the best D out of the three picks
Da Patriots- A team that might be able to take each jab we bring and throw one right back at us just as hard. If this game were next week in New England with good weather the over under might be 84 points.

Who, if anybody, do you fear and why ?

[Packers4Glory]

Saints in the NFC for sure. SF could cause issues and a healthy bears team is scary.

AFC balt, NE, PIT in that order.

[pbmax]

Don't fear the Saints wideouts or Sproles as much away from the Dome. Praying for snow/rain/ice so Brees tiny hands cannot grip football.

Patriots have no wideouts on the outside and Woodson can hold Welker in check. Question is who defends Gronkowski and Hernandez. Pass rush was very good versus Brady last year. Offense with Flynn scored 27 points after giving 7 away. Rodgers might score 60 versus a worse version of that D.

Steelers D not as good as last year but pass rush getting healthier might make up for the back end. Packers offense even better this year. Steeler's O better outside but O line even with Pouncey healthy is worse. Might help Packers pass rush going against two backup tackles.

I fear Steelers on neutral site first, then Saints on road. If Pack was on the road, then would be petrified of Saints O. Score would be 71-70.

[RashanGary]

They asked this at another forum a while back. I said NO if it's good weather and our pass defense doesn't get fixed. It's Chicago if it's a mudder. The other team I was afraid of was the Giants with their pass rush. If our pass defense gets stronger, the Giants are the team in the NFC most likely to be able to kill Rodgers.

[smuggler]

We'd probably beat the Pats on a neutral site, Saints too. SF, Balt, Pitt, it would come down to if they limited our O enough.

[gbgary]

If our pass defense gets stronger, the Giants are the team in the NFC most likely to be able to kill Rodgers.

huh?

as for the question...the saints are the only nfc team that has a chance against us...maybe the only team period. imo

i don't think the giants exposed anything that the rest of the league didn't already know.

[RashanGary]

huh?

as for the question...the saints are the only nfc team that has a chance against us...maybe the only team period. imo

i don't think the giants exposed anything that the rest of the league didn't already know.

If our pass defense stays the same - Saints
Mudder - Bears (before injuries)
If our pass defense gets better, I think the Giants are a tough matchup than NO

49ers are limited at QB. We beat them.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Personally, I thought the game plan for this game on defense was the worst of the year. How often do you have to play Eli Manning to know that he likes to wing it deep? Yet, I saw a lot of safeties cheating up. I saw a lot less 2 deep safety play than I would have liked. If Hawk, Bishop, Sitton, perhaps Clifton get back healthy and we have a better game plan, I think we take care of them easily in the playoffs at home.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Saints are the only team I fear in the NFC. That would be a tossup. I'm hoping San Fran takes them out in the second round of the playoffs. I think Pittsburgh, New England, and Baltimore could all give us a battle in the Super Bowl. That's four teams I'm concerned about. I'd say our odds of repeating are around 25%.

[mission]

Exposed? No. Giants had their backs against the wall at home and played tough. Game actually made me feel better about the Packers.

Only team in the league I'm scared of is the Saints. Not worried about the 49ers.

[Joemailman]

The Saints are the only team I fear in the NFC. That would be a tossup. I'm hoping San Fran takes them out in the second round of the playoffs. I think Pittsburgh, New England, and Baltimore could all give us a battle in the Super Bowl. That's four teams I'm concerned about. I'd say our odds of repeating are around 25%.

Latest odds of Packers winning Super Bowl are 1.5:1. That's pretty incredible. Patriots are 3.75:1.

[mission]

Latest odds of Packers winning Super Bowl are 1.5:1. That's pretty incredible. Patriots are 3.75:1.

As much of a homer as I am, those numbers don't seem too EV+ to me. No play IMO

[MadtownPacker]

Exposed? No. Giants had their backs against the wall at home and played tough. Game actually made me feel better about the Packers.

Only team in the league I'm scared of is the Saints. Not worried about the 49ers.

Exactly. I was telling everyone this game was going to be close. Unless there is a rematch the Giants might have been the greatest challenge the Pack will face.

As mentioned the Saints and Brees in the cold dont invoke fear. Plus the 49ers will likely knock someone out. Maybe it will be the bears again?

[Joemailman]

Giants pretty much had the formula for beating the Packers:

Get pressure on Rodgers without a lot of blitzing.
Run the ball well enough to force Packers safeties closer to line of scrimmage.
Stop Packers running game.
Throw deep on Packers safeties.

Just one problem. Two turnovers, one returned for a touchdown. To beat the Packers, a team is going to need to score 28+ while playing turnover-free football. Saints and Patriots probably have the best chance of doing that.

[mission]

Exactly. I was telling everyone this game was going to be close. Unless there is a rematch the Giants might have been the greatest challenge the Pack will face.

As mentioned the Saints and Brees in the cold dont invoke fear. Plus the 49ers will likely knock someone out. Maybe it will be the bears again?

I was actually walking around the house all nervous Sunday morning, pulling a Whammy and explaining to my [semi-caring] wife that I'll be OK with 15-1 and how it might be good for the team and all that. She kept stressing out throughout the game and I just repeated "it was supposed to go like this, don't worry".

Anyway, "exposing" to me means the Giants did something against the Packers that other teams can now copy and exploit to win. What did they do? Throw a bunch of balls to a stud WR who made some big plays? Intercept Rodgers? Have more talent on their DL than just about anyone in the league? Run up the gut against two crappy linebackers? There's just not much there to emulate, no replicable blueprint unless a team has the raw talent to match up like the Giants did. Not a lot of teams do.

In the end, Rodgers was Rodgers and we won anyway. There are going to be close games in this league, they all get paid too.