A Giant Whine....

[Smidgeon]

I thought he had possession of it the way he transferred it to his left hand. My perception was that GJ demonstrated possession by one-handing it. But what do I know.

He said afterwards (I know, I know) that he caught it on his fingertips and kept it there on purpose. It's what I saw while I was watching the replays, but everyone else was looking for a palm on the ball to indicate possession.

[Freak Out]

Your team lost Tom.....STFU and get ready for the next game.

[denverYooper]

Your team lost Tom.....STFU and get ready for the next game.

Whining about officiating is the province of losers.

[Freak Out]

Man...one of my earliest memories of a botched call was a Brady Bunch episode where Greg was the team photographer. One of his game photo's clearly showed a toe in-bounds on a late game catch in which his team lost....lesson learned....don't be a whiner like Greg Brady.

[denverYooper]

Losers whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

[MJZiggy]

Your team lost Tom.....STFU and get ready for the next game.

Or focus on this and lose your next game because you were too busy whining and knock yourselves out of the playoffs over it.

[jdrats]

Man...one of my earliest memories of a botched call was a Brady Bunch episode where Greg was the team photographer. One of his game photo's clearly showed a toe in-bounds on a late game catch in which his team lost....lesson learned....don't be a whiner like Greg Brady.

I remember this episode! Lol! IIRC the officials then count the TD and Greg's team wins. Greg is the hero!

So, can we trace all the uproar for instituting instant replay to this media moment? By the time replay came around, did we have an entire generation that believed football should have a Brady Bunch-like fairness? Does every whiner out there somehow believe they can be the hero, just like Greg Brady?

[Pugger]

Hey Tom! Instead of crying about that "TD" why not concentrate on why your defense couldn't stop Rodgers and company with only 58 or so seconds to go in regulation?

[sharpe1027]

This is an unbelievable travesty. Clearly the Giants have been unfairly punished by the inadequate use of advanced technology and this technology is required for a fair game to be played. The NFL should probably revisit their polices and then replay the entire season to give the Giants a far chance. It is amazing that the sport survived the dark ages back when they didn't have 500 camera angles to correct an official's mistake. All of those games should probably be stricken from the record books and the winning teams should give back any trophies and awards.

Keep up the good fight Tom!

[smuggler]

I thought the Jennings one was a crock of shit. He bobbled that thing the whole way. The only thing that made it seem like a catch was his body language. He made it look like he just grabbed it, took a few steps and then walked off like he just won the superbowl. How many milliseconds do both of your hands need to be on the ball with your feet down for it to be a catch.

Only a single instant of possession is a TD in the endzone inf you aren't being taken to the ground by the defender. Jennings grips the ball with his left hand, two feet in bounds, right before the defender slaps it out. Call on the field was a TD, so it stood.

If it would be a fumble on the field, it would certainly be a TD in the endzone. Even if they would have ruled it incomplete on the field, there's a good chance it was a touchdown.

[sharpe1027]

Only a single instant of possession is a TD in the endzone inf you aren't being taken to the ground by the defender. Jennings grips the ball with his left hand, two feet in bounds, right before the defender slaps it out. Call on the field was a TD, so it stood.

If it would be a fumble on the field, it would certainly be a TD in the endzone. Even if they would have ruled it incomplete on the field, there's a good chance it was a touchdown.

I think you are right on the rules, stupid as they may be. If the DB had tackled Jennings and brought him to the ground, instead of cleaning knocking the ball out, it would not have been a catch (assuming the ball still came free at some point). WTF? Does anyone besides me think that it is an insanely stupid set of rules?

[gbgary]

jennings catch was just that...a catch...all the way. had it on his fingertips for three steps. that's where the td is imo.

[jdrats]

jennings catch was just that...a catch...all the way. had it on his fingertips for three steps. that's where the td is imo.

Wasn't there a POS call on a similar Jennings catch in 09 or 10 where he took a couple steps in the endzone and the defender knocked it from his hands, and it was ruled no TD? FWIW I thought both were clearly catches by any standards, including the NFL's cluster fuck of rules.

[Pugger]

The rules for TD catches is a cluster f*ck.

[swede]

Wasn't there a POS call on a similar Jennings catch in 09 or 10 where he took a couple steps in the endzone and the defender knocked it from his hands, and it was ruled no TD? FWIW I thought both were clearly catches by any standards, including the NFL's cluster fuck of rules.

Against the Bears in the flagfest game I think, but he was tackled after he had possession in the endzone and it called into consideration the "going to ground" exceptions.

In the catch against the Giants I thought it was a catch at first, then I saw the replay twice and thought it wasn't a catch, and then I was shocked to hear that the play stood. Watching another replay I did see the instant of firm possession just before the defender slapped it away. Since Jennings wasn't going to ground the exceptions regarding control of the ball did not apply.