A Giant Whine....

[sharpe1027]

The rules are beyond absurd. What moron made up a rule that retroactively changes a catch and TD into a non-catch based upon actions occurring after the catch was already completed? If after the DB knocked the ball away, supposedly after the catch was already made and the was play dead, the DB had ran into Jennings knocking him down, is it then incomplete? Actions after a play would normally dead suddenly change the outcome of what happened before the pay was dead? If Jennings had dove after the ball when it was knocked away, thus going to the ground, would it suddenly become incomplete? If Jennings had immediately taken a knee to celebrate, would it suddenly become incomplete?

[Smidgeon]

Against the Bears in the flagfest game I think, but he was tackled after he had possession in the endzone and it called into consideration the "going to ground" exceptions.

In the catch against the Giants I thought it was a catch at first, then I saw the replay twice and thought it wasn't a catch, and then I was shocked to hear that the play stood. Watching another replay I did see the instant of firm possession just before the defender slapped it away. Since Jennings wasn't going to ground the exceptions regarding control of the ball did not apply.

In the Bears' game, Jennings took three steps in the end zone after catching it and before being knocked to the ground--and it was overturned. That's the part I don't get about the rules.

[mraynrand]

Do you remember when ESPN used to run those live polls during MNF, where they had people vote on catch/no catch, TD/no TD, etc. The thing I remember is that the audience was always right. There's a psychological effect that leads to this, and I'm forgetting it, but it's similar to when you ask a very large group to guess the number of beans in a jar, for example. The average of those guesses is usually very accurate. I think ESPN pulled that feature at the request of the NFL, because the collective was much more accurate than Ed Hochuli and Jeff Triplette.

[mraynrand]

When I said the NFL pulled that feature, I meant having fans guess the number of jellybeans in a jar.

[swede]

When I said the NFL pulled that feature, I meant having fans guess the number of jellybeans in a jar.

That might have been the best 14,154th post in Packerrats history.

[sharpe1027]

That might have been the best 14,154th post in Packerrats history.

In 10+ years, I plan to top it. Stay tuned.

[swede]

In the Bears' game, Jennings took three steps in the end zone after catching it and before being knocked to the ground--and it was overturned. That's the part I don't get about the rules.

I wasn't sure how that could be, so I went back to look. The defender had his hands on Jennings before Jennings gets both feet down. Despite the fact that Jennings had possession for three full steps the "going to ground" special rules had been invoked and he needed to stay on his feet or maintain control after going to the ground.

I also think that possession in the end zone should trump the "going to ground" rule.

[mraynrand]

I'm sick of "going to ground." I don't ever want to hear that phrase again unless talking about woodchucks, spies, or electrical wiring.

[Little Whiskey]

I'm sick of "going to ground." I don't ever want to hear that phrase again unless talking about woodchucks, spies, or electrical wiring......or non-packer players

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