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  • #31
    I really only ment to let him walking he thinks he's gonna get top money. It's become commical to watch him try to catch a ball. I know he does some nice stuff....but so does Brandon Pettigrew for Detroit, wouldn't insider him elite. Thing is, Rodgers might just stop throwing to him all together, which drops his price tag. Bill Michels tonight said from what he's heard through sources is every big drop he's had lately has dropped the packers offer "significantly".
    "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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    • #32
      I watched Gronkowski the last two weeks. It's not even close who's the better player. Finley is very overrated.

      I love his chip blocks though. Finley plays with great attitude and is great at going up and getting the ball. As far as adjusting his routes in a way that AR actually knows WTF he's doing? Uh, yeah, he's leading the team in drops, has darn near half of them. He's just not very consistent this year.
      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #33
        I agree, his attitude has been very good this year. He just needs to stay the course. I can't help but think there may be a "bad Jermichael" still lurking deep down in there somewhere.
        "My problems with him are his vision and tendency to dance instead of pounding a hole." - Harvey Wallbangers

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        • #34
          Jennings injury might be what Finley needs, as finleys injury last year was what Jennings needed.
          "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            That makes it sound as if his attitude is week to week. He is on board. Its like Finley is the new Crosby around here.
            I hope you are right. Crosby is gold, let's hope finley starts catching like crosby makes field goals!
            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

            George Orwell

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ND72 View Post
              Jennings injury might be what Finley needs, as finleys injury last year was what Jennings needed.
              We're likely to find out, unfortunately. I'll say this about Finley: he does seem to play better when they really need it.
              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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              • #37
                The issue seems to be the drops and, to a lesser degree, his route running.... ok, and his verbose nature.

                Lets just disregard his supposed "attitude" for now.

                The drops and route running are a concentration issue, he is clearly capable of performing at a REALLY high level. So why is he having such a hard time focusing? McAdoo seems to have done a good job with our stable of other young tight ends (Ryan Taylor scored today, fer cryin' out loud.), why is J_Mike not getting it? What the hell is going on out there? It's really puzzling and frustrating.

                But the kid is not helping his cause with all the drops. If he wants top end money, he needs to earn it. TT ain't gonna' give it up for "potential".

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ND72 View Post
                  I really only ment to let him walking he thinks he's gonna get top money. It's become commical to watch him try to catch a ball. I know he does some nice stuff....but so does Brandon Pettigrew for Detroit, wouldn't insider him elite. Thing is, Rodgers might just stop throwing to him all together, which drops his price tag. Bill Michels tonight said from what he's heard through sources is every big drop he's had lately has dropped the packers offer "significantly".
                  I can't see it dropping their current offer/position or they call their own evaluation system into question. It sounds more like bluster than a serious statement. Something I would expect from Michels but not from the Packers. I could see it lowering their willingness to increase their offer. Or hardening their current position.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                    The issue seems to be the drops and, to a lesser degree, his route running.... ok, and his verbose nature.

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                    See, that second contention is only an issue to the public. Since he went off on Rodgers his rookie year, both Thompson and McCarthy have said they enjoy having him around and are not bothered by him. He didn't even get e rebuke over photogate during Super Bowl week. I think the public loves to think of Finley as a receiver diva more than his team is concerned about it.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                      I watched Gronkowski the last two weeks. It's not even close who's the better player. Finley is very overrated.

                      I love his chip blocks though. Finley plays with great attitude and is great at going up and getting the ball. As far as adjusting his routes in a way that AR actually knows WTF he's doing? Uh, yeah, he's leading the team in drops, has darn near half of them. He's just not very consistent this year.
                      This reminds me of your Starks vs Grant argument. Gronkowski is catching everything right now, but he'll never be a the threat that Finley is. Do the Patriots split Gronk out and throw jump balls to him? Finley lines up all over the field and draws multiple defenders making reading the defense that much easier for Rodgers. The guy has a lot of value and the Packers will pay him.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by collapse77 View Post
                        Do the Patriots split Gronk out and throw jump balls to him?
                        Who cares? The guy can catch TDs in other ways...and the Pats use them. The Pats don't have the offensive firepower we have, so they use him like they have to.
                        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                          Who cares? The guy can catch TDs in other ways...and the Pats use them. The Pats don't have the offensive firepower we have, so they use him like they have to.
                          When you can split a guy out on the goaline and it's a favorable match up that's a big deal. John Kuhn can catch TDs in other ways. It doesn't mean he has more value.

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                          • #43
                            More Finley hate. Ugh! We are 13-0 and Finley is a part of it. Let's enjoy this. I hope most of our guys get resigned. Draft, develop, and resign the good players. It's the TT way.
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                              More Finley hate. Ugh! We are 13-0 and Finley is a part of it. Let's enjoy this. I hope most of our guys get resigned. Draft, develop, and resign the good players. It's the TT way.
                              The posters on this board who actually have a clue all agree how valuable Finley is, the guy is not going anywhere. Yea he's not having the best season but teams are still putting double coverage on him for a reason.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                If you're talking about the INT today, the defender got a hand on it because it was underthrown.
                                How is that even an int these days? If that's a receiver, with a defenders hands on the ball, before he goes out of bounds, seems to me they'd say he never established control.

                                If Finley justs lets the DB fall on top of him it's probably simultaneous possesion and a TD. Intead, Finley flips him out of bounds and somehow it's ruled an int.

                                After replay, the ref literally said, "The player had two hands on the ball..." Which seems a low standard.

                                A great play by that db, but, as mentioned earlier, I just don't get the NFL's cluster fuck of rules concerning a catch in the end zone.

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