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Originally posted by Fritz
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I hope you're right. I want the Hawk back that took over the reigns from Barnett and played like a man possessed. Prolly a good thing M3 sat him and didn't have him play 30 snaps as originally planned. Prolly better, that he witnessed the backups playing so soundly. -
This isn't some JV team. Hawk wasn't upset because he thought he was going to lose his job if he didn't play in the second half, he was upset because he doesn't like sitting on the sideline. Hawk isn't going to lose his job to Francois. Like Thunderdan said, Smith plays Bishops position in the 3-4 not hawks.Comment
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Except Francois is proving to be our best cover backer, so he could end up taking snaps from Hawk on 3rd and long.Comment
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm not sold on this idea yet.Originally posted by smuggler View PostNo longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.Comment
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By Aaron Nagler on Dec 13, 2011
A.J. Hawk apparently let his head coach know that he wasn't thrilled that he didn't get to play in Sunday's game against the Raiders. Mike McCarthy made light of the situation in his press conference yesterday, but for Hawk it is no laughing matter.
Why? Because he's watching a rookie play, and play quite well, in his place. In fact that rookie, D.J. Smith, seems to be improving with every snap he takes. While it's true that Robert Farncois will most likely come off the field when Hawk returns, it can't be denied that Smith is the best linebacker on the bench on this team - and maybe he shouldn't be on the bench.
One of the worries heading into the game against the Giants last week was determining which defenders would be tasked with wearing the defensive headset. Smith has not only taken over Hawk's duties of relaying the defensive calls, the rookie is playing at a high level while doing so. Smith was everywhere on Sunday, leading the team in tackles and making a big play by intercepting Carson Palmer on the Raiders' opening drive.
Big plays have been few and far between for Hawk and his perceived value has been the fact that he gets guys in the right place, makes sure the defense is never too high or low, and is generally assignment-sure. His teammates have credited his steady demeanor for keeping them focused, even after giving up big plays. It's no surprise then that the Packers signed Hawk to a five-year, $33.75 million contract this past offseason. But the more Smith plays, and the better he looks, the harder it will be to keep him off the field, even when Hawk comes back healthy.
The Packers probably waited too long to get Desmond Bishop on the field in favor of previous starter Nick Barnett. Hawk can see how well Smith is playing and certainly doesn't want the rookie giving the coaches any reason to revisit how they waited too long to get Bishop on the field.
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There is no reason to write it in stone, but he gives them an option that perhaps doesn't exist with Hawk, Bishop or Smith. McGinn dinged him for being a step behind a couple of times, so he is not bulletproof, but he can make a play on the ball. I like to see hi get a chance, even if all it led to was spot assignments versus certain players at certain down and distances.Originally posted by Smidgeon View PostBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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I seem to remember Hawk being torqued about not playing much in the Philly(?) game in 2010 and responding well to that slight.Originally posted by Fritz View PostComment
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I'm not saying Hawk needs a snub as motivation - he's a pro. But I do think that subconsciously, people do respond to seeing others do well in their place. If I see a guy being especially nice to my girl, I'm going to spiff up my game, even if I treat her well anyway."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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He intercepted two passes by being in the right spot and we are ready to annoint him the "best". Packerfans you gotta love them. I remember him having a hell of a bad week in coverage against the Giants, but I guess even the best have an off night.Originally posted by smuggler View PostComment
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Having bad coverage versus TEs is nothing new for the Packers. Making a play when in position, that is new.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
He might be terrible. He can't be worse.Code:Player Ints Games Desmond Bishop 0 11 AJ Hawk 0 11 Robert Francois 2 2
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Overall, he didn't have a good game, but he did have his hands on a pick covering the TE. The guy has coverage skills. perhaps he is just raw as all hell, but ability is ability. We know what the Packers have in Hawk and it ain't all that good.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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Opening game. Yup, he wasn't happy. Hawk had reasonable coverage skills in 2007. That injury in 2008 seemed to kill anything he had left.Originally posted by George Cumby View Post"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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I wouldn't mind seeing some 2-5-4 (base/nickle) hybrid with Fancois and/or Smith in there from time to time.Originally posted by smuggler View PostFormerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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MM said he had more playmaking ability than he's given credit for.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Not to pile on, but who is playing better TE coverage on our team right now? Two games does not make a player, but if he keeps up his level of play I will be happy with Frenchy.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostAll tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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