OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GAMEDAY THREAD

[Iron Mike]

Rodgers looked like he did a few years ago, when he held on to the ball waaay to long.

Maybe he can have another heart-to-heart with them, and agree to release earlier, if they'll agree to stop sucking.

[Harlan Huckleby]

pass blocking was poor.

[Joemailman]

Maybe he can have another heart-to-heart with them, and agree to release earlier, if they'll agree to stop sucking.

I think it was Clifton who said, "Look. We need to play better, but you need to get rid of the ball quicker". Fire up the instant replay!

[TravisWilliams23]

The undefeated talk was fun while it lasted. Would have been a great accomplishment but in the end a Super Bowl trophy is what it's really all about.

This takes the pressure of McCarthy to not rest the starters during the last 2 games. Get as many players as healthy as possible and try to shore up the defensive screw ups as much as possible. They really need a healthy Cliffy back at LT. Bulaga is a must at RT. Jennings should be back by the 1st playoff game. Bishop back and healthy should improve the D.

While no loss is good, back in '62 Lombardi was kind of relieved when they lost to the Lions on turkey day. His comment to the press after the loss was "I think we will be a better football team for having lost this one," Lombardi said after the game. "That business about an undefeated season was a lot of bunk. Nobody in his right mind could have expected it." If a perfectionist like Lombardi had this kind of comment after the teams only loss, then I think McCarthy should instill this attitude to the '11 Pack.

[Bretsky]

Great run B. Who's starting the Game Day Thread next week?

Not sure; do I get some sort of pension plan via Packerrats for the One year run ?
Perhaps we should take nominations and have some sort of vote....

The person who steps up will get the advantage of four home games in a row I think so it looks to be a fairly easy job the rest of the year

[mission]

Lots of bad today but AJ Hawk sucks ... all those wide runs. He's so average to below average... I'm tired of "steady". Contrary to popular belief, he's NOT always in the right spot.

[pbmax]

Packers were out played but especially out coached this game. I think the whole team expected the Chiefs to lay down for them. Typical for stubby, he doesn't prepare them for the "easy" games.

How do you win 20 in a row and beat only playoff teams? Do we really need to spend time breaking down the illogic of this statement?

[pbmax]

Name sounds familiar but don't remember him at all... who was he?

Backup QB for the Colts, a travesty of a team that walloped the Packers in a shootout in 97. A game that by all rights, the Colts should have lost by 20.

[pbmax]

It's only one game and not yet time to panic but that was about as ugly as I've seen in a long time... well at least since Dolphins/Redskins last year. Drops and injuries on offense (Jennings and O-Line) combined with injuries and overall lack of stoutness on D were the major factors in us losing this game. Do need to give credit to the Chiefs who came out emotional and played a whale of a game.

Don't forget the Lions game at Detroit.

[pbmax]

I felt like I was losing my edge and formally asked for a week off on my whammy job but you @ssholes said no
In summary, it's all your fault and had you given me the week off on the GD thread last week we'd have won this week and then went on to 19-0

You mailed it in! Frontrunner!

[pbmax]

So am I the only one who thought our d played well, the way its built too? My disappointment was no turnovers, but they minimized points. If our o would have gotten the lead like they should have we would have gotten our picks. Our d and st did well, our o was poor, especially oline prior to injuries. I think the early bs off pi calls on nelson threw them of a bit, but that might be an excuse.

I have few complaints about the Defense. At least, no new ones. The Chiefs fired their Head Coach and he served as his own offensive coordinator. So the Packers D faced a new QB and new gameplan with no film on it at all. It was bound to look ugly at times. That is not to say they are world beaters with film, but alot of the misalignment stuff would be gone.

The one weakness that showed through clearly was ILB. Smith was horrible at times in both run support and misdirection and he offered little in coverage. Hawk didn't help in coverage at all. There were open zones in coverage in the middle of the field all game.

The offense has far fewer excuses, though it gained more of them as they lost O lineman.

[pbmax]

Well, I think the blueprint has been laid out on how to at least slow the Packers offense down.

Play nine or even ten in the box but only rush four or five and try to confuse Rodgers with coverages the best you can. Hopefully, you can get the Packers receivers to drop four, five or six passes and there you go .....
And when you are on offense .... DON'T TURN THE BALL OVER.

Offensively, Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball quicker. More short routes to soften up the defense, then hit them with the big play. Every offensive play doesn't have to consist of four verticals ....

That being said, the critical problem with this team is that the defense is an absolute mess. If they can't generate turnovers, they are pathetic. They are what they are and I don't believe Capers and the defensive assistants have any answers .... a better team today would have scored 30+ on the Packers D today.

Unfortunately, I think at some point in the playoffs the Packers offense will not be able to put up 35+ and the defense's ineptness will bring about the ultimate downfall of this team.

I have not seen the replay, but most of the good coverage I saw was man on man. So the Packer receivers outside of Finley were not doing much against a team that does have a few guys who can cover. The secondary for the Chiefs is not terrible by any stretch. Most teams struggle to find that kind of coverage. Even the Giants didn't have it. Nelson couldn't get open deep and I assume that is because they could put a safety over the top on him. Should have left Jones open though.

Packer receivers (including the main offender Finley) had too many drops, but many of those were brutal targets. Rodgers was not accurate and he had a tough time finding a hole to through to.

This was a game the run game should have helped more, but the one time they went with 3 rushes, they ended up shy of a first by half a yard.

[Guiness]

I have not seen the replay, but most of the good coverage I saw was man on man. So the Packer receivers outside of Finley were not doing much against a team that does have a few guys who can cover. The secondary for the Chiefs is not terrible by any stretch. Most teams struggle to find that kind of coverage. Even the Giants didn't have it. Nelson couldn't get open deep and I assume that is because they could put a safety over the top on him. Should have left Jones open though.

Packer receivers (including the main offender Finley) had too many drops, but many of those were brutal targets. Rodgers was not accurate and he had a tough time finding a hole to through to.

This was a game the run game should have helped more, but the one time they went with 3 rushes, they ended up shy of a first by half a yard.

Agreed. Newhouse or not, there were times Rodgers was back there for a while, and couldn't see to find anyone downfield. Nelson suffered from drawing the top coverage with Jennings gone.

I thought KC had lost a pile of DB's to injury?

[pbmax]

Agreed. Newhouse or not, there were times Rodgers was back there for a while, and couldn't see to find anyone downfield. Nelson suffered from drawing the top coverage with Jennings gone.

I thought KC had lost a pile of DB's to injury?

Still had Flowers and one other decent corner. Might have lost nickel/dime guys.

[mission]

I have few complaints about the Defense. At least, no new ones. The Chiefs fired their Head Coach and he served as his own offensive coordinator. So the Packers D faced a new QB and new gameplan with no film on it at all. It was bound to look ugly at times. That is not to say they are world beaters with film, but alot of the misalignment stuff would be gone.

The one weakness that showed through clearly was ILB. Smith was horrible at times in both run support and misdirection and he offered little in coverage. Hawk didn't help in coverage at all. There were open zones in coverage in the middle of the field all game.

The offense has far fewer excuses, though it gained more of them as they lost O lineman.

Hmm.. I know I've been into DJ Smith so not trying to sound like a homer, but I thought he played pretty well again. Especially the run game. No one was home on screens and I suspect he was at least partially responsible there. Really thought AJ was lost the entire game outside of a play or two; that really hurt on plays that got bounced outside for good yardage.

Agree with the first paragraph 100%... had all the ingredients for an upset.