Newhouse stinks

[RashanGary]

I think that's overly harsh. I think he's held his own. He's had some bad games, but they've left him out there by himself a lot and he's faced a plethora of top pass rushers. This isn't Allen Barbre. I think Newhouse has a good future.

I do too. One thing I read in McGinn's scout quotes is that it's very hard to judge OL from schools that don't have pro-style OL coaching. Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Alabama, etc. . . . They teach pro technique. Scouts can see clearly what a guy has because they're doing it the same way they'll be doing it in the NFL. If they're good at it in college, chances are they'll be good at it in the pros.

It was a big knock on Sherrod and a big plus for Carpenter coming out. Newhouse faces a similar challenge to Sherrod. He's had to learn all new technique. It takes time to ingrain that muscle memory and trust in the technique. He's bounced around too.

I'm turning into a fan of Newhouse. From where he came, what he's had to overcome. . . . . McCarthy talks about players being, "on time." On time is different for every player. For Shields, it would be different than a top prospect coming out of Saban's defense. For Sherrod, it's going to be different than Bulaga. I think all things considered, Newhouse is, "on time." He's well below average right now, but I think there are teams with worse starting LT's that Marshall Newhouse right now. I'd like to have a better LT today, but he's not killing us either.

If I had to bet on it, I'm betting Newhouse becomes a staple of the Packers OL for years to come. If I had to guess his position, I'm going to say LT. With Sherrods knee injury, he's really turned into a project, even more than he already was. The way Newhouse is trending, Sherrod might never get a chance to replace him. Newhouse seems like a durable guy too. He's athletic, seems loose.

I like him a lot and I think the two week span he's going to get going into the playoffs is going to be a great chance for him to get a little refresher on his technique. Even guys like Rodgers, Sitton, Raji, Matthews. . . . Coaches talk about taking time to keep re-establishing their foot and leverage technique. The best of the best benefit from it. Newhouse has had a fast and furious introduction to the NFL. Somehow I doubt he has a lot of time to just focus on solidifying his technique.

My prediction. . . . . Newhouse surprises us and plays solid ball in the playoffs. He keeps his spot. Cliffy was doing a better job keeping his body between the defender and the QB, but he was getting shoved back right into Rodgers lap. Newhouse tends to get beat outside but recovers to push the DL backward. AR can usually step up and the strength of our OL is inside. For our offense, Newhouse's weaknesses aren't as painful as they could be and I don't think they're as permanent (even in the short term) as they're made out to be.

[Bossman641]

Rodgers had high praise for Newhouse

"That’s not my decision on who is going to ultimately play there," Rodgers said. "Can’t say enough about the job Marshall has done. Starting the season out, I didn't look at Marshall the way I look at him now. I look at him now as a guy who really has a strong, legitimate chance to be the left tackle of the future. I think he has the personality makeup to do that, the athletic ability to do that, the feet and the smarts to be a very, very solid left tackle for us.

"Chad has been a guy who’s been so consistent for us through the years. Getting him back would mean either depth or a guy that can be plugged in right away and play. Mike has mentioned he'd like to see Chad play some plays this week in order to know if he can go with him in the playoffs.

"That being said, whoever is in there at left tackle, there will be a lot of confidence. Again, I thought Marshall played his butt off on Sunday against the Bears and I'm not surprised. It's not a performance that surprised me when he goes out there and plays the way he does."

[Deputy Nutz]

Newhouse had a great game against the Bears, with Clifton returning this week it will be interesting to see how the Packers line up in the playoffs. I assume that Clifton will get hurt this week so their won't be much for discussion.

[pbmax]

If I had to guess his position, I'm going to say LT. With Sherrods knee injury, he's really turned into a project, even more than he already was. The way Newhouse is trending, Sherrod might never get a chance to replace him. Newhouse seems like a durable guy too. He's athletic, seems loose.

Do you mean broken tibia and fibula or has there been an update on his condition that I missed?

[Fritz]

Broken leg. Not the knee.

I like Newhouse but I do wish he'd stay on guys a little instead of guiding them, then letting off. When his man falls down, I want Newhouse to fall on top of him.

[sharpe1027]

Broken leg. Not the knee.

I like Newhouse but I do wish he'd stay on guys a little instead of guiding them, then letting off. When his man falls down, I want Newhouse to fall on top of him.

I agree with this. When I watched Newhouse specifically, he showed pretty good footwork by staying between his man and Rodgers initially, but he doesn't seem to engage early or stay engaged for very long. Maybe he is still a bit tentative and not very aggressive? Seems like a minor complaint compared to the days of Barbre.

[Fritz]

Minor, but important. I've seen a few plays in which he guides his man behind Rodgers, then lets up just enough for his man to come after Rodgers from behind as Rodgers takes off. I've also seen plays in which Newhouse's man slips and falls - and Marshall just stands there, looking. In one instance, it was Jared Allen, and he immediately got up and tackled Rodgers as he went by.

Come on, Marshall. Engage your man, and if that man goes down, flop your big southern ass on top of him and lay there like a hippo on a chihuaha.

[bobblehead]

Broken leg. Not the knee.

I like Newhouse but I do wish he'd stay on guys a little instead of guiding them, then letting off. When his man falls down, I want Newhouse to fall on top of him.

I remember college doing that in the red zone last year and packer nation went NUTS because if he had stayed on his feet he could have made a key block on someone else.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Minor, but important. I've seen a few plays in which he guides his man behind Rodgers, then lets up just enough for his man to come after Rodgers from behind as Rodgers takes off. I've also seen plays in which Newhouse's man slips and falls - and Marshall just stands there, looking. In one instance, it was Jared Allen, and he immediately got up and tackled Rodgers as he went by.

Come on, Marshall. Engage your man, and if that man goes down, flop your big southern ass on top of him and lay there like a hippo on a chihuaha.

I think you hit on what I see the biggest weakness being for Newhouse. I think it's something that is coachable--which is why I have a lot of hope for him.

[pbmax]

I remember college doing that in the red zone last year and packer nation went NUTS because if he had stayed on his feet he could have made a key block on someone else.

Its a tough call, but if the QB is in the pocket, you need to keep that guy down. If the QB or runner/receiver is breaking free, the haul off down the field. Its not always possible to know exactly where the ball is if things have not gone according to plan.