Eric Walden: turd on wheels

[Brandon494]

i've been starting to think that maybe we should tag and trade finley for a proven OLB or 3-4 DE

we should be able to get a real good young one for fin

fins got a case of the drops lately, but i'm starting to think we might not need him. for WR we have jennings, nelson, jones, cobb and probably either driver or gurley

thats 5 good WR's. then we have a whole shitload of te's that are capable of catching a ball and holding on when they need to

we could trade finley and not miss a beat i think

Or just use the upcoming draft to fill our needs like we always do, we've lost one game all season no need to make any major changes.

[Brandon494]

BTW AJ Hawk played just as bad this game....again. I know they just resigned him but I hope hes gone next season. He signed a 5 year deal but his base salary this year is only 1.2M and goes up to 4.4M next season. He did get a 8M signing bonus somehow so they will probably end up keeping his under performing ass for another season.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Actually, Hawk was pretty good this game. Bishop had his struggles and Walden plain sucked.

[Brandon494]

Actually, Hawk was pretty good this game. Bishop had his struggles and Walden plain sucked.

Might want to go rewatch that game bro

[mraynrand]

Might want to go rewatch that game bro

I'm excited to see Bishop back. Hawk was horrible. I'd like to see Francois with Bishop on passing downs.

[Tarlam!]

Depends on if the Packers can get any more deals done this year. They have $6M in cap space because they didn't use that money on Jenkins. Perhaps they'll find a way to get Wells or another player signed to a contract extension that's front loaded to use the cap space that Jenkins deal would have eaten up.

Harv, under the new CBA, the cap rules have changed. I think the deadline for allocating money to this season's cap has elapsed. But, I also mean to have read, unused cap money can be pushed into next year. Maybe someone knows more about? I think I read it on either Packers.com or NFL.com.

[HarveyWallbangers]

12 tackles, 2 for losses, only one tackle more than 7 yards down the field and that was on a pass play to a WR when he wasn't the primary cover guy. Might want to rewatch the game yourself.

I thought he struggled in the KC game in his first game back, but he was one of the few in this game that actually showed up to play.

[pbmax]

McGinn thought he played "awful. Despite his size and strength, he plays small and doesn't shed blocks. He was late recognizing blocking combinations, didn't move well laterally and failed on some run-throughs."

Before reading that, I wouldn't have termed it awful, but invisible. Except for the one tackle behind the LOS I remember, I mostly remember him being unavailable or getting run over while making a tackle. I don't think Hawk's limitations have necessarily grown, but he seems to be suffering more from the D line's struggles than Bishop.

[Fritz]

I agree. Hawk is often in the right place but man, he can't shed a blocker to save his life. And when he tackles, he often seems to be taking the blow rather than giving it.

[Fritz]

Re: Thread Title

[Brandon494]

12 tackles, 2 for losses, only one tackle more than 7 yards down the field and that was on a pass play to a WR when he wasn't the primary cover guy. Might want to rewatch the game yourself.

I thought he struggled in the KC game in his first game back, but he was one of the few in this game that actually showed up to play.

I don't need stats I watched the whole game. I guarantee you can't find one article that says Hawk played well but I can find you a couple that proved he played like shit again. The guy made one tackle for a loss all night but every other tackle he was being dragged like a rag doll by the Bears RBs for positive yards. I mean what exactly does Hawk excel at? Smith needs to be starting next year over him IMO.

[Brandon494]

As well as Soto over Walden

[SkinBasket]

Actually, Hawk was pretty good this game. Bishop had his struggles and Walden plain sucked.

Bishop did play pretty retarded, but I would expect that after so much time off the field. I was going to make a thread about him until Walden totally outshined his poor performance with his own legendary suckfest.

[pbmax]

Yes on Bishop, but he showed the instincts that distinguish him from Hawk and Barnett. He made one play on that wide run (this time I think it was to the O's right) with pulling center and guard in which he shot the gap and grabbed the runner before he could get to the hole/edge. MNF ran a replay of it. Don't get me wrong, I am the same poster who said he was far to reckless and undisciplined to play a year and a half ago, but he has shown that with experience he can be more reliable than I thought.

Hawk does seem to have played more behind the LOS this year, but even there it doesn't always result in someone going down. And if he is in a traditional spot, he always seems to be going backward.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't agree with the assessment. The local guys (McGinn and the high school assistant they have on GBPG) haven't exactly been big Hawk backers. When the DL plays as awful as they did in the last game, it will make the LBs look worse. IMHO, Bishop was worse in this game and Walden was much worse. Hawk kept a lot of big gains to 5 yards or less.