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  • #31
    I've honestly always questioned how much "pull" philbin really has in GB. I think McCarthy has that offense wrapped tightly around his fingers. Not saying Philbin didn't do anything, I'm sure he has plenty of input, and McCarthy seems pretty genuine in wanting input and creativity from his staff.

    I wonder if he looks to Clements or even Edgar Bennett as the next OC. I still wonder why Bennett became the WR coach from his money maker as RB coach. I say Bennett takes over OC, they convince Driver to be the WR Coach next year.
    "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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    • #32
      Thanks for this information. A good read.

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      • #33
        Schneider was a plus one when he got rehired a couple of years ago. They took him back but he mainly worked on special projects, so McKenzie leaving will definitely be felt more deeply.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          Just remember, whoever leaves is likely to be replaced by someone up and coming with a lot of promise. If you are on the personnel side of things, Green Bay is an ideal spot to further build your career. I don't think the loss of McKenzie will be that harmful at all...with Thompson probably 3-5 years away from considering retirement, finding a capable #2 won't be that difficult when your team is the reigning champion and doesn't have an intrusive owner constantly looking over everyone's shoulder.

          Whoever gets that spot now is the #1 candidate to replace TT. I doubt finding a quality guy will be all that difficult.
          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
            Maybe Clements would take that job if Philbin leaves?
            This seems both logical and highly plausible considering the Packers' penchant for promoting from within. From what I can gather, it also makes the most sense, because M3 is not going to relinquish play calling duties in a hurry, nor will he change the scheme.

            Serving the Packers at OC is a thankless position, because M3 gets all the credit. None of us are close enough to really grasp the contribution made by Philbin. I guess that is why we fans are nonchalant about his possible departure. Accordingly, we heap praise on Clement, because we "see" how well he's coaching the QBs, or at leats, that's our perception. We would all wish him well, but the sense of loss would be far greater.

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            • #36
              Not really worthy of its own thread, but worth mentioning:

              Originally posted by NFL.com
              Packers VP Wied resigns, calling health 'a real concern'

              GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers vice president Jason Wied resigned Friday, citing his addiction to an herbal remedy he was using to treat sleep-related health issues.

              Wied, the Packers' vice president of administration/general counsel, took an indefinite leave of absence from the team in November. In a statement issued Friday by the Packers, Wied says he has been dealing with sleep apnea and insomnia.

              "This was a difficult decision but the right one for me," Wied said. "I've had some health issues, including sleep apnea and insomnia, for the last couple of years and have tried many treatments, herbal remedies and medications. Recently I developed a dependency on one of the herbal remedies that had been suggested and my long-term health became a real concern."

              Wied said he entered a treatment center Nov. 7, with the support of his family and the team.

              "While there I realized that I needed to make some changes and some tough choices -- and I feel that moving on from my employment with the Packers will allow me to make the changes I need in my life right now," Wied said.

              Wied, a Green Bay native, has played a critical role in the team's recent plans to expand Lambeau Field.

              "Jason has been an integral part of the success the Packers organization has enjoyed over the past decade," Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy said. "He has served in key roles for the Packers on many projects, including the 2003 redevelopment of Lambeau Field and the current expansion to the stadium, as well as the development and construction of Ray Nitschke Field, the team's training camp practice facility."

              Wied initially joined the Packers in 2000 as staff counsel and was named vice president of administration/corporate counsel in 2007 before being promoted to vice president of administration/general counsel in 2008.

              "I consider myself fortunate to have worked here for 11 years," Wied said. "I'm very proud of what we accomplished and look forward to the continued success of the Packers on and off the field. As a fan and shareholder, I'll continue to cheer the Packers on every Sunday with my family by my side."

              Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press

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              • #37
                That statement by Wied has the feel of a deep rationalization rather than a simple truth.

                I wonder if everyone leaving the Packers, beside those advancing careers, will be doing so for health related reasons.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Wolf leaving doesn't bother me at all. He is so young with such limited exposure and experience that going to another organization will be good for his development. If he continues to show talent and ability, when the Packers have a need, if they have an interest, they could always try to get him back. If they do, there will be no question about their motivation. It is the only way he will get out from under the charge of nepotism, which would have remained without a break from GB.

                  I think the loss of McKenzie will be felt in GB.
                  I disagree, slightly, with the assertion that young Eliot is inexperienced. IIRC he's been watching film since he was a child with his dad as his teacher.

                  I do agree that his experience lacks breadth.

                  I do agree that losing McKenzie will hurt. But if it was obvious to us fans that this day was going to come, upper management must have known and been grooming his replacement.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                    Maybe Clements would take that job if Philbin leaves?
                    I never thought of this possibility, just assumed both would be gone. Clements will bring an ariel attack to what ever
                    Team he coaches for. Thinking about getting a first down in 2 downs instead of 3 for so many years is one of the reasons Arod has a high ypa in my opinion. I would love to see him be our OC, as would any team with a good qb.
                    All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                    George Orwell

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                    • #40
                      Personally, I think John Dorsey leaving would be a bigger deal, but that's just a hunch. I too have no way of knowing what a loss McKensie is.
                      Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                      • #41
                        I knew PFT was barking up the wrong tree.



                        BobMcGinn Bob McGinn

                        The #Packers have lost R. McKenzie to #Raiders but ascending scout Eliot Wolf isn't going anywhere. Wolf likely to be next head of pro dept.

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                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          And this: https://twitter.com/#!/BobMcGinn/sta...75747517792256

                          BobMcGinn Bob McGinn

                          Ron Wolf and Ken Herock didn't interview Reggie McKenzie in Oakland Wed. The interview was conducted by Mark Davis and John Madden.

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                          Perhaps Mark Davis knows his limitations and makes smart decisions about how to proceed. If so, Jackson might get a true vote of confidence/shot contract extension after McKenzie gets to watch some tape and talk to him, then McKenzie can take over the HC oversight.
                          Last edited by pbmax; 01-07-2012, 12:35 PM.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            And this: https://twitter.com/#!/BobMcGinn/sta...75747517792256

                            BobMcGinn Bob McGinn

                            Ron Wolf and Ken Herock didn't interview Reggie McKenzie in Oakland Wed. The interview was conducted by Mark Davis and John Madden.

                            22 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


                            Perhaps Mark Davis knows his limitations and makes smart decisions about how to proceed. If so, Jackson might get a true vote of confidence/shot contract extension after McKenzie gets to watch some tape and talk to him, then McKenzie can take over the HC oversight.
                            PFT's already reporting McKenzie has head coach firing power and also reports speculation (not their own) that McKenzie might poach Winston Moss.
                            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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