LeRoy: Brett Better Than Aaron

[Joemailman]

Well I for one am glad Leroy settled the debate once and for all.

Seriously when will it end?

Why would it end? I'm sure there are Bear fans who debate whether Sayers or Payton were better. Colts fans with Unitas and Manning.

[Pugger]

Well I for one am glad Leroy settled the debate once and for all.

Seriously when will it end?

When Rodgers wins another SB and 2 more MVPs.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Neither Butler nor Jennings opinions really matter much when comparing Favre vs Rodgers. Butler played with Favre in his prime and Jennings is playing with Rodgers in his. While Jennings did play with both Favre and Rodgers, he only played with Favre two seasons when he was 37-38 yo. Rodgers at 37-38 will not be as good as Rodgers now if he even plays that long. Our opinions as fans should actually be more valued than Butler or Jennings because we have been following the packers are whole lives and have watched both play. Butler and Jennings are going to be biased towards the QB they played with. Even Driver didn't come on until 99', the start of a two year period of transition and missing the playoffs. 99’, 00’, and 05’ were probably his worst seasons.

IMO Favre is still better than Rodgers as of right now. They both have one superbowl victory, but Favre played 20 years without missing a game and played at a high level almost every year. He has almost every major passing record and played during a time when it wasn’t a foul to tackle. The only way Rodgers passes Favre is to win more superbowls. He will never come close to his records, starting streak, and likeability among fans (07 and before). Winning championships to me holds more weight than anything else and that’s the one area that Favre does not have a big edge. One championship in 20 years is not very good considering he was in the playoffs about 12 times in his career. I understand he played on some bad teams in which he was the only bright spot, but his playoff performances after 97 for the most part sucked. If Rodgers wants to even make this a discussion he can't let opportunities to win titles (like this season for example) go to waste, because while we currently look like we will be good for a while, nothing is guaranteed.

So as of today, I would still put Favre ahead of Rodgers.

[Pugger]

Neither Butler nor Jennings opinions really matter much when comparing Favre vs Rodgers. Butler played with Favre in his prime and Jennings is playing with Rodgers in his. While Jennings did play with both Favre and Rodgers, he only played with Favre two seasons when he was 37-38 yo. Rodgers at 37-38 will not be as good as Rodgers now if he even plays that long. Our opinions as fans should actually be more valued than Butler or Jennings because we have been following the packers are whole lives and have watched both play. Butler and Jennings are going to be biased towards the QB they played with. Even Driver didn't come on until 99', the start of a two year period of transition and missing the playoffs. 99’, 00’, and 05’ were probably his worst seasons.

IMO Favre is still better than Rodgers as of right now. They both have one superbowl victory, but Favre played 20 years without missing a game and played at a high level almost every year. He has almost every major passing record and played during a time when it wasn’t a foul to tackle. The only way Rodgers passes Favre is to win more superbowls. He will never come close to his records, starting streak, and likeability among fans (07 and before). Winning championships to me holds more weight than anything else and that’s the one area that Favre does not have a big edge. One championship in 20 years is not very good considering he was in the playoffs about 12 times in his career. I understand he played on some bad teams in which he was the only bright spot, but his playoff performances after 97 for the most part sucked. If Rodgers wants to even make this a discussion he can't let opportunities to win titles (like this season for example) go to waste, because while we currently look like we will be good for a while, nothing is guaranteed.

So as of today, I would still put Favre ahead of Rodgers.

But I'd rather have Rodgers and his decisions in big games over Favre at any time in his career.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

But I'd rather have Rodgers and his decisions in big games over Favre at any time in his career.

That is what I'm hoping for as well.

Favre’s statistics in the playoffs through 97’ look like this: 3096 yards 23 tds 10 ints. 9-4 record, 2 superbowl appearances and one win superbowl win. You can't say he played bad up until this point can you? We have no idea if Rodgers will continue on and play like Montana in the postseason for the rest of his career or if you will fall off like Favre did. That’s why until Rodgers has more playoff success, ala more titles, Favre still has and will always have the edge.

[Old School]

I gave up on Butler and his analysis after about two episodes in the Mil Journal. Now the Journal thinks they're so good that people will pay to read it online. So I'm spared that as well.

[mraynrand]

Why would it end? I'm sure there are Bear fans who debate whether Sayers or Payton were better.

no way. They all know Sayers was better.

[Joemailman]

If Rodgers can lead the Packers to another Super Bowl win this year, in a year in which the Packers did not have an outstanding defense, it would be difficult to justify not rating him over Favre.

[denverYooper]

Love the gif, but I think those picks are about a specific result, as in, who will have the best passer rating after this weekend's games, etc. Didn't hear the segment, but I can't imagine them picking Manning over Brees for any other reason. Its seems to follow defensive matchups as Brady had little trouble with the Broncos the first time, Rodgers faces a resurgent Giants D and Manning gets the Packers D.

Ya. I heard it this morning. The matchup makes the difference.

[denverYooper]

It's not that surprising that a guy who played with Favre during the prime of his career would rate Favre higher. Nor was it surprising the other day when Jennings ranked Rodgers higher. One of the great things about being a Packer fan is that we can even have this debate. On most teams either Favre or Rodgers would be unquestionably the best ever.

He said as much, that Brett got him a ring. That was the extent of his analysis.

[SkinBasket]

There's a reason the organization wanted nothing to do with Butler after he retired and he kept skulking about the stadium begging for something to do. The guy's a retard. A talented retard, but definitely a retard. Christ, even Edgar Bennet could get a job with the team after his playing days were over.

[ND72]

I've really tried to stay out of the Favre/Rodgers battle. Very hard to compare the 2 IMO. I grew up loving Favre, and I pretty much love Rodgers as much as I once loved Favre. The biggest thing that is hard for some people is the fact the Favre was as much a "caricature" as he was an athlete for GB. He would do something in a game and people would laugh and fall more in love with him because he was just having fun and so on. Favre did some amazing things, no question, but there were many times he would make mistakes early in his career, but had an amazing defense that could make up for his mistakes. Later in his career that fact showed it's ugly face a lot. Granted he had some great years without a very good defense though. He also put up some crazy numbers without the type of talent Rodgers has right now. You can look and see Sterling Sharpe, Robert Brooks, antonio Freeman, Donald Driver...but none of them really played together at the same time. Sterling was with Brooks, but Brooks wasn't really used...then Brooks took over, and Freeman was the lesser used, than Freeman took ove and Driver was the lesser used...GB has had a nice run of #1 recievers, but never had likely 4 #1 guys on the team at one time, PLUS a pretty good TE in Finley. I mean come on, Bill Schroeder led the team as a receiver one season. The Packers running game for many years early in Favre's career were screens and dump off passes.

Now on the flip side, Rodgers is a Quarterbacks Quarterback. I would assume Rodgers could develop into a very good coach some day given his attention to detail. If Rodgers didn't walk into a situation that had Driver and Jennings year 1, it could have been a bad start for him. but Thompson has loaded this team with weapons, and doesn't care if we have 6 WR's to compete for 5 spots as long as the best 5 make it...at any position. I love Rodgers, we have to credit some of his success to the talent that's been placed around him. BUT...I don't think Brett Favre could have made some of the throws that Aaron Rodgers has made in the past year. He's been fun to watch, and I hope we can get some OL talent around him to keep him upright for many years. How many teams can say they had 2 HOF QB's play back to back and it lasted potentially 30 years? Bear fans will hate us.

[Packers4Glory]

Not impressed by the timing of this assumption by Bertler; to be a whole QB is more than gunslinging and being an ironman. Forinstance, imagine Rodgers giving Flynn the treatment Bert gave Rodgers. Bert was a very, very rich mans Billy Joe Tolliver - those kind of QBs shouldn't even be winning SBs. They need help and Bert had a boatload of help compared to Rodgers.

Rodgers>>>Bert - yet Bert is still a fringe top 15 QB All time. Rodgers will be top 10 for sure when his career is over sans major injuries. Packers have been QB blessed.

say what? Favre never had offensive weapons like AR has...just say'n. lets be real. Farve had some good weapons, but he also made some crappy guys look really good, and never an offense like we have today.

[Packers4Glory]

Rodgers is the much better QB. Never thought I would say that... and I was very critical of Rodgers before he reinvented himself and his throwing motion - but right now, compared to Favre at the height of his career?? Rodgers is a much better QB.

geezus. I realize Favre pissed a lot of fans off, but come on man!

1. the lg has already changed a great deal from Favre's hey day. It's a much more pass oriented lg...not to mention all the rules recently put into place to help the QB and offenses.

2. Favre was an absolute stud in his prime. He did things NOBODY else could do back there.

3. AR is a much more calculated and safer QB. Right now AR is playing as good or better than Favre for a 20+ game stretch. But again, the lg is a lot different than it was, AR has a sick supporting cast, and its still a small sample size.

Lets see what happens this yr and for the next several before we crown AR as the better QB. It's waaaay to early to be making that call.

I love me some AR for many many reasons which include how awesomely he has handled the transition and having to follow a legend. Other than Montana and Young, there is no other story like AR's and what he's done. Nobody that I can recall has came into the lg unestablished and taken over for a HOF QB and done what AR has done. I love it. But its a little too early to convince me he's better than Favre. He's still got a ways to go before you can seriously have that discussion.



The ONE great thing about this is AR already has a chip on his shoulder and maybe this just adds to it. This just dumps more gas on his fire and desire to shut up everyone. So I'll thank Butler in advance.

[Fosco33]

Arodg should do an extra Lambeau Leap just for Butler...