Blow it up

[Pugger]

Agree with all but #7. Kuhn was OK back this year. Clifton was a liability today. Finley does NOT deserve his payday. His piss poor performance and the amount of drops do not equate to upper echelon talent.

The pass rush was PA-THE-TIC. I don't get the constant zone schemes when the Giants were finding the soft spots most of the game.

The D had no pass rush and played too soft. The loss of Collins hurt, but it was no excuse for the sloppy play.

PISS POOR Fundamentals. Lousy tackling, the amount of drops and lack of ball control was far from championship caliber.

Say what you want about Driver, but he was one of the few guys who caught the tough passes today. Jennings, Finley, Starks, Crabtree all had drops that killed drives. Rodgers wasn't as sharp with the 2 overthrows, but his runs were the only thing that kept this game from being an even worse defeat.

Yes, pass rush, or lack thereof, has been an issue all season, even before Collins went down. Losing Collins' leadership back there has really hurt, tho. Even tonight it looked like there was still confusion back there.

[hoosier]

Someone really needs to tell McCarthy that our offense is NOT ideal for January in Green Bay.

The weather did not cause those drops, fumbles and missed open receivers. The Packers picked a horrible week to lay an egg, but that is what happened. It could have happened in September and it would have been forgotten a month later. This one will stick with them a lot longer, but the loss had nothing to do with their inability to run the ball.

[Bretsky]

We need to resing Wells but not break the bank on this
We need to resign Finley but not break the bank there either
We need to find a guy who had a rookie season like Brooks Reed
We need to find another CB and another DL who are more than J.A.G.S.
We could really use a change of pace back who is a receiving threat
Guys like Wynn, Wilson, and a lot of OLB's on this squad are perfect last players at that position guys. We have too many of those

[Freak Out]

Cobb should be better next year along with all the other WRs/Fin minus DD. Grant and Starks can both go by bye after this game for all I care. We need help all over the D as others have stated. The TOs killed the Packers today. Grant looked ok when he wasn't fumbling....Starks still seems to be a liability in pass pro. Hard to win them all......KC was the wake up call but the giant still took a nap.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

- Finley is not as good as I thought he was going to be after the cards playoff game. Good player but not even close to being great. He catches every other pass.
- Wells needs to stay....hopefully at a decent price.
- Collins is three times the player Burnett or Peprah are.
- Hawk sucks and should be cut. Makes no plays what so ever.
- Woodson is getting old and slow so who the hell knows what to do with him.
- Matthews was not nearly as dominate this season.
- Williams???? what the hell happened?? I really thought for sure he was elite, but I as wrong.
- Shields? who the hell knows.....
- DL needs at least two more playmakers.
- We need a better running game. Grant is trash.

[denverYooper]

We need to resing Wells but not break the bank on this
We need to resign Finley but not break the bank there either
We need to find a guy who had a rookie season like Brooks Reed
We need to find another CB and another DL who are more than J.A.G.S.
We could really use a change of pace back who is a receiving threat
Guys like Wynn, Wilson, and a lot of OLB's on this squad are perfect last players at that position guys. We have too many of those

Wells might be one of the best players on the team and is there every week. They shouldn't break the bank on him but they should make him a priority re-sign.

[denverYooper]

Burnett will be a solid Safety if he can stay on the field for another year. If Collins isn't back, though, they need to think hard about finding a second one.

[ND72]

Now that my anger has passed, there is a simple fact...we are like a basketball team...if you are gonna live by thev3, then Younkle by the 3. Teams that are passing teams will have struggles due to drops....unfortunately our bad day came when it mattered. We have a good foundation...but we NEED a talent upgrade on the DL, OLB, and DB depth. If we can strengthen those areas the rest is gravy. I said it last year draft time, we need a JJ Watt on the DL, and we still do. I don't get the bagging on Burnett, thought he has been ok, but peprah, lee, bush are trash...along with Wynn nd Wilson on the DL.

[Joemailman]

Burnett will be a solid Safety if he can stay on the field for another year. If Collins isn't back, though, they need to think hard about finding a second one.

They need another safety even if Collins is back. Peprah should be your 4th safety/ST guy.

[ND72]

Burnett will be a solid Safety if he can stay on the field for another year. If Collins isn't back, though, they need to think hard about finding a second one.

If Collins doesn't come back....FML

[Packers4Glory]

Woodson still had a pretty darn good yr. problem is Williams and Shields struggled in front of our safeties. and they all struggled because we couldn't generate any pass rush up front. Mathews had zero help and got double teamed all yr.

[esoxx]

Speaking of Kuhn, anybody here an update on him?

He's still slow and top-heavy the last I heard.

[ND72]

Woodson still had a pretty darn good yr. problem is Williams and Shields struggled in front of our safeties. and they all struggled because we couldn't generate any pass rush up front. Mathews had zero help and got double teamed all yr.

YES.

[Deputy Nutz]

So I hear you all, I think the biggest issue that you have all pointed out is the defensive front seven and the lack of pressure applied to the QB of the opposing team.

The defense is a mess, the scheme fell apart and became predictable especially if you don't have the talent to straight up beat the guy in front of you on a regular basis, and not one defensive player showed capable of doing that this year. Mathews got stoned more times this year when tackles took him one on one than the year before. Opponents recognized Woodson blitzing out of the slot, they recognized the cross blitz by the middle linebackers and the inside twist with Mathews and Bishop. You can only bring guys from so many places and teams figured it out from last year. It comes down to just kicking ass and there were too few ass kickers on this defense. With Collins out the defense has two total play makers in Woodson and Mathews.

Woodson also missed far too many tackles this season, especially on running backs.

[mmmdk]

draft defense and then draft some more defense.

I agree! Man, it sucks to acknowledge that packers need to retool (already) one year after a SB win & a season where it is now evident that Aaron Rodgers pretty much carried us to a 15-1 regular season record plus 0-1 in POs. Without AR we're not that far from being the Colts sans P.Manning.