Looking ahead to Free Agency

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

What about Landry? If Collins comes back and you sign Landry you would probably have the two fastest safeties in the league. Maybe we tag Flynn, they tag Landry and we trade both straight up?

[Patler]

I would be happy with Mario Williams.

[Brando19]

I would be happy with Mario Williams.

That would be awesome, but wouldn't we have to pay him UNREAL money? Then we'd do the same for Matthews. Between Mario, Matthews and Hawk...our LB's would break the bank.

[woodbuck27]

You really think we are going to sign a top 50 FA? And if we did I sure hope it would be a defensive player instead of spending a ton of money on a RB.

Mais Oui .... considering we're so solid in that aspect of OUR offense.

NOT !

GO Ted Thompson.

[denverYooper]

I would be happy with Mario Williams.

Many Packers fans would share your happiness.

I'm curious as to whether you see this as plausible. I see some reasons why it might be but I still don't think it's likely:

1.) They do have some pretty cap heavy vets likely to be moved off the books and they have some space to work with in addition to that.
2.) Other players, particularly on D -- Tramon, Bishop, and Woodson -- have voiced a desire for a pass rusher. Not that I see those players making personnel decisions, but having the team behind bringing in a name and paying them obviously helps with the support of their leaders.
3.) Williams is coming off an injury year, perhaps dropping his price. Really depends on how the rest of the market sets up for him, tho. Chainsaw Dan is not likely to be in the bidding so that might change the field a bit.
4.) Ted has gone away from his base draft and develop at times (Woodson, Pickett) to pick up players he sees are needed
5.) Ted mentioned early in the process that he wouldn't be opposed to picking a big-name FA if he felt the team was a key piece or two away.

Still, boy I have a very hard time seeing this move materialize because the risk/reward might still be too heavy on the risk side.

[Patler]

I would be happy with Mario Williams.

Many Packers fans would share your happiness.

I'm curious as to whether you see this as plausible. I see some reasons why it might be but I still don't think it's likely:

1.) They do have some pretty cap heavy vets likely to be moved off the books and they have some space to work with in addition to that.
2.) Other players, particularly on D -- Tramon, Bishop, and Woodson -- have voiced a desire for a pass rusher. Not that I see those players making personnel decisions, but having the team behind bringing in a name and paying them obviously helps with the support of their leaders.
3.) Williams is coming off an injury year, perhaps dropping his price. Really depends on how the rest of the market sets up for him, tho. Chainsaw Dan is not likely to be in the bidding so that might change the field a bit.
4.) Ted has gone away from his base draft and develop at times (Woodson, Pickett) to pick up players he sees are needed
5.) Ted mentioned early in the process that he wouldn't be opposed to picking a big-name FA if he felt the team was a key piece or two away.

Still, boy I have a very hard time seeing this move materialize because the risk/reward might still be too heavy on the risk side.

I put in the category of, "Not a chance in heaven, hell or on earth".

[pbmax]

I put in the category of, "Not a chance in heaven, hell or on earth".

Its also a bit of Kampman redux. Mario had a major injury last year and he has been hurt and missed games before. In the past year, was moved from DE in a 4-3 to OLB in a 3-4.

He's a risk and he might prefer 4-3 DE if he gets the choice.

[Scott Campbell]

Keep in mind that any FA pickup this year probably won't be free at all. There will be a direct reduction in the compensatory pick value (from a 3rd or 4th rounder to 7th at best) we receive in return for losing Matt Flynn to FA.



Excerpt from the compensatory pick section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...l_League_Draft

"Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks."



In my mind that means we'll either have to go for a really, really good player - or skip FA entirely. And you can probably guess which way Ted is leaning.

[Pugger]

What kind of compensatory pick could we get for Flynn? Does it depend upon how he performs with his new club?

[Scott Campbell]

What kind of compensatory pick could we get for Flynn? Does it depend upon how he performs with his new club?

There are a number of factors, but the biggest is his contract. If he gets starter QB money in FA, then we'd probably get a 3rd rounder.

[Joemailman]

It's a combination of salary, Playing time and post season honors. I think the Packers received a 4th for Kampman. Flynn would have to have a great year for the Packers to get a 3rd.

[red]

sign fin, tag flynn because miami wants him bad. then make them give up some picks. that pick #42 looks kind of nice

then go OLB, d-line cb, and safety in the first 3 rounds. in any order

if a decent d-lineman free agent is available that could add some better depth, then cool. i like that CJ mosely idea

or there's the idea of moving wood to safety if nick can't come back. then maybe go get another vet CB that doesn't break the bank

[Scott Campbell]

It's a combination of salary, Playing time and post season honors. I think the Packers received a 4th for Kampman. Flynn would have to have a great year for the Packers to get a 3rd.

I think you're wrong about this. Kampman didn't have a great season - he got hurt and we still got a 4th rounder. Why? Because of the value of Kampman's FA contract.

Flynn would have to get a relatively large contract for us to get a third. And QB's get bigger contracts.

[Pugger]

sign fin, tag flynn because miami wants him bad. then make them give up some picks. that pick #42 looks kind of nice

then go OLB, d-line cb, and safety in the first 3 rounds. in any order

if a decent d-lineman free agent is available that could add some better depth, then cool. i like that CJ mosely idea

or there's the idea of moving wood to safety if nick can't come back. then maybe go get another vet CB that doesn't break the bank

We are assuming Philbin would want Flynn and he just might. But I still doubt TT is gonna tag Flynn.

[digitaldean]

I don't see TT tagging Flynn. If the Fins don't get him the Redskins sure could use him.

Besides, if for some unseen reason Flynn doesn't get nabbed, we'd be on the hook for a salary bigger than A-Rod's right now.