Who Should The Packers Draft: 1st Round

[woodbuck27]

Bleacher Report is reporting it should be this fella at #28. What is your opinion on this once highly touted CB?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janoris_Jenkins

and:

http://www.roarlions.com/Lion_Sports/Football/Current_Season/10_Bios/Janoris_Jenkins.htm

Janoris Jenkins North Alabama Lions — No. 1 Cornerback Senior

Major: Social & Behavioral Sciences ...... !

Date of birth: October 29, 1988 (age 23) Place of birth: Pahokee, Florida

Height: 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) Weight: 183 lb (83 kg;

Personal Note ... woodbuck27:

IMO I would be surprized if TT chose this troubled young man. The risk.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I don't think a CB even enters the discussion in the first round. TT has to go OLB or DE.

[Smidgeon]

The Packers have the luxury of focusing on pass rush this year, whether that be on the DL or from the OLBs. Hopefully they do so.

They should still get some value there out of Mike Neal, too, if he can stay healthy. Pretty hard for the guy to do much on that knee this year, though. I think just getting out there for the remainder of the season was a win as far as he's concerned. I wouldn't be comfortable in any way with them going into next season leaning too heavily on him, but he's got potential and it seems like he's got the will to get there if his body will hold out.

I guess what I'm saying is that I hope they attack the pressure problem through FA and the draft and I hope to hell Mike Neal comes around. They could go from farce to fierce there pretty quickly if a few things hit for 'em.

After Neal's lost rookie year, I made the argument that he shouldn't be considered a savior because he needed to stay healthy. To this point in their careers, Justin Harrell had flashed more and stayed healthier than Neal has. I hope the offseason gets him the rest and recovery he needs because I don't want to see another talented player get lost due to injury issues.

[Joemailman]

Bleacher Report is reporting it should be this fella at #28. What is your opinion on this once highly touted CB?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janoris_Jenkins

and:

http://www.roarlions.com/Lion_Sports/Football/Current_Season/10_Bios/Janoris_Jenkins.htm

Janoris Jenkins North Alabama Lions — No. 1 Cornerback Senior

Major: Social & Behavioral Sciences ...... !

Date of birth: October 29, 1988 (age 23) Place of birth: Pahokee, Florida

Height: 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m) Weight: 183 lb (83 kg;

Personal Note ... woodbuck27:

IMO I would be surprized if TT chose this troubled young man. The risk.

One thing TT never does is draft a character risk in the first 2 rounds.

[red]

i can see us taking a CB in the 1st round. we only have two real ones on the roster if woodson retires or gets moved to safety. and both of those two guys greatly underperformed this season

but its not going to be janoris jenkins. no way TT drafts that headcase

[woodbuck27]

I don't think a CB even enters the discussion in the first round. TT has to go OLB or DE.

TT likes to go BPA. BPA on his board. What can anyone ever say about that till years after TT makes the pick. 2005 - 2011 or 7 drafts X an average of what 8.5 players per or about 60 prospects out of the draft. Then there were a Noah's boatload of undrafted prospects signed. Of that group of draft pics and undrafted prospects. ** How many are Pro Bowl players ever or close to that status or the 'only' decent stick to measure an NFL players star value?

I realize that a good team is developed by working the roster to meet the system or winning attitude and philosophy of the team. MM has worked really hard on that aspect of the Packer way.

** Aaron Rodgers;Scott Wells;Brian Bulaga;Greg Jennings;Jordy Nelson and OK Jermichael Finley on 'O'. I have BJ Raji;Clay Matthews and Nick Collins on 'D'. Did I miss anyone?

That's nine players out of 22 starters or 41%. Is that really great? After 7 seasons we are set at 41% of the positions RE: Starters.

Everybody really happy? I am. We managed a Super Bowl last season and that had everything to do with team momentum and attitude. We got into a certain comfort zone based in effort and reward. This season we got to comfortable IMO. We failed to get that sense of urgency that was necessary to get ready to win our first playoff game.

If I"m correct it's just a lesson learned. Experience is the BEST Teacher.

I will continue to go with this. The 2011 season New York GIANTS are very similiar to the 2010 Season Green Bay Packers. The New York GIANTS will win the Super BOWL on Sunday 05 Feb. 2012.

GO PACK GO.

[smuggler]

other things (talent) being equal, I think the priorities for the team are:

1. DE
2. DT
3. CB
4. C
5. OLB
6. ILB

[Joemailman]

other things (talent) being equal, I think the priorities for the team are:

1. DE
2. DT
3. CB
4. C
5. OLB
6. ILB

Safety?

[Lurker64]

I say trade up to grab either Melvin Ingram or Courtney Upshaw.

We really need a "crush the pocket" guy across from Matthews, and the 5-tech crop this year is not great.

[smuggler]

Safety?

If we can't improve the pass rush, we are going to need better safety play. My plan would be to minimize the crappiness of Peprah by having Collins come back healthy, and hopefully get something a little more from Anthony Levine or some young safety, alongside improved pass rush.

Clifton, Woodson, Driver, HGreen, and Pickett are all candidates for retirement or the cutting block. Woodson and Pickett only via retirement, or (the very unlikely case) of Woodson becoming a cap casualty.

Those positions become targets in the draft, also.

Also, consider that Woodson may move to strong safety. It would probably be only a matter of title, though, and little more. He's still effective the way we are using him now.

[Brandon494]

Just pick the best available defensive player when its our pick.

[MadtownPacker]

There wont be a 1st round pick. TTs gonna get it turned into some 2s or 3s and go defense.

[woodbuck27]

TT likes to go BPA. BPA on his board. What can anyone ever say about that till years after TT makes the pick. 2005 - 2011 or 7 drafts X an average of what 8.5 players per or about 60 prospects out of the draft. Then there were a Noah's boatload of undrafted prospects signed. Of that group of draft pics and undrafted prospects. ** How many are Pro Bowl players ever or close to that status or the 'only' decent stick to measure an NFL players star value?

I realize that a good team is developed by working the roster to meet the system or winning attitude and philosophy of the team. MM has worked really hard on that aspect of the Packer way.

** Aaron Rodgers;Scott Wells;Brian Bulaga;Greg Jennings;Jordy Nelson and OK Jermichael Finley on 'O'. I have BJ Raji;Clay Matthews and Nick Collins on 'D'. Did I miss anyone?

That's nine players out of 22 starters or 41%. Is that really great? After 7 seasons we are set at 41% of the positions RE: Starters.

Everybody really happy? I am. We managed a Super Bowl last season and that had everything to do with team momentum and attitude. We got into a certain comfort zone based in effort and reward. This season we got to comfortable IMO. We failed to get that sense of urgency that was necessary to get ready to win our first playoff game.

If I"m correct it's just a lesson learned. Experience is the BEST Teacher.

I will continue to go with this. The 2011 season New York GIANTS are very similiar to the 2010 Season Green Bay Packers. The New York GIANTS will win the Super BOWL on Sunday 05 Feb. 2012.

GO PACK GO.

I realized just before retiring last night that I forgot our FB John Kuhn. We're solid at Kicker Mason Crosby and our punter Tim Masthay are solid. Randall Cobb gives us some decent return game or the best we've seen it since TT took the helm of our ship.

It's very possible that that GIANT ass kicking over us is a blessing in disguise.Maybe our Players got to into their 15-1 record and imagined that Aaron Rodgers was invinceble....a superior human being...something like that. When did Aaron Rodgers shoot that Insurance Sales pitch commercial? I see that up lately alot.Was that done close to the GIANT visit? Sure the death of Joe Philbins son may have affected some players more that others but these are Pro's and that cannot be used as an excuse.The correct mentle attitude must be drilled into them by Coach's or other hired Proffessionals. I will not ever agree that our team was prepared for the GIANTS in any sense of are you prepared..ready to win this fricken game? Something waqs screwed up. All they needed was a reminder of how the 2007 Season ended.Surely MM didn't need any reminder of how he handled the team that6 week of that loss.

Whateverthe bottom line today and the focus now is to see our team get back on the beat up to speed...fully running and ready to win a Super Bowl sometime within the next Five Seasons. It will not come easy. It will not come soon. TT has loasds of deadwood to cut and build that Packer House stronj and he must rip at his defense to do that.He needs to realize we have need all over on'D' and the Aaron Rodgers led 'high flying offense' has to protect the defense that MM marches out on the field as each game begins.

The bottom line at Packerrats..... EASY !

GO PACK GO !

[pbmax]

TT likes to go BPA. BPA on his board.

To reduce it this much is to ignore the decisions that brought BJ Raji (by several reports not the BPA at the time, Crabtree was higher) and Matthews and Burnett (trade up) to the team.

If you trust the grades of your scouting system, then there are waves of players grouped at certain levels. Depending on when you pick and other selections, those waves can disappear too quickly, leaving you with a board that is bereft of prospects worthy of the pick. That is why Burnett was the choice in Round 3 and part of the reason Thompson went back into round 1 for Matthews.

[denverYooper]

One thing TT never does is draft a character risk in the first 2 rounds.

They drafted Raji after a positive test for marijuana.

Anyhow, 5'10" would be the shortest corner on the team. I'd be a little surprised to see them dip under 5'11".