Mike Vandermause article about this disaster

[Patler]

Special teams were pretty damn good. Not only did they not give up any big returns, they blocked a field goal attempt. Nothing special on the return game, but solid nonetheless.

As they have been for most of the year.

The defense couldn't get off the field, which allowed a lot of clock to be chewed up, but it didn't give up points and created chances for the offense.

Again, pretty much what has happened all year.

The offense was offensive. The announcer's were gushing about the Giant's defense, but I saw nothing other than the Packer's beating themselves. The Giants hardly stopped the Packer's all day. The Packer's did a good enough job of that.

The primary difference yesterday was the offense.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The offense was out of sync and lacked emotion. I do not think it is a coincidences that it is the players on offense that were probably the closest to Philbin

The offensive line played well and with emotion. The defense played to their usual level. I'm not buying the flat game reasoning. The reeceivers dropped a bunch of balls and killed momentum. Giants played like world beaters. Those are two big factors.

[KYPack]

Our exit from the play-offs keeps a string going.

This will be the 8th straight season that the team with the league's best regular season record does NOT win the SB.

Last team to do it was the 2003 Pats.

[Patler]

The offensive line played well and with emotion. The defense played to their usual level. I'm not buying the flat game reasoning. The reeceivers dropped a bunch of balls and killed momentum. Giants played like world beaters. Those are two big factors.

Don't forget the fumbles. Three fumbles and perhaps as many as 6 dropped passes (not my number, I read that in an article). Fumbles and dropped passes are a lack of attention to detail, a lack of focus; things that can happen at the tail end of two emotional weeks on a personal level, which is more what I was getting at in my paragraph than the little snippet you quoted and focused on.

[mraynrand]

The primary difference yesterday was the offense.

And even then, it wasn't much. You could look at collection of little errors - maybe four - that, if erased, could have meant 20+ points. It's amazing how games hinge on these things, but they do.

[sharpe1027]

The Packers lost the game from a bunch of bad plays, few of the bad plays were caused by anything special by the Giants. The Giants played a cleaner game, plain and simple.

Was it lack of focus or just dumb luck that they all happened at the same time? There is no way to ever be certain. Sometimes shit happens.

[Tarlam!]

It's amazing how games hinge on these things, but they do.

ESPN here is replaying the game. I just watched the hail Mary TD again. That really deflated the Packers. IMHO, that is the dagger play of the game.

[PA Pack Fan]

ESPN here is replaying the game. I just watched the hail Mary TD again. That really deflated the Packers. IMHO, that is the dagger play of the game.

Nah, we were in it till the Grant fumble, 4th quarter.

[Joemailman]

ESPN here is replaying the game. I just watched the hail Mary TD again. That really deflated the Packers. IMHO, that is the dagger play of the game.

With that play my thoughts went from "We've played like crap, but we're only down 3 and get the ball first in the 2nd half" to "This doesn't look like our day". I suspect a lot of players felt the same way.

PA is right though. Grant's fumble was the dagger.

[red]

i've ben saying this for a few years now. we are not built to be a cold weather team. our style attack is better suited for a dome or in nice warm weather

home field advantage is a liability to this team the way we are built and led right now. we live and die by the long ball, we saw yesterday what happens when the long ball goes to shit

maybe its time to put a roof over the old stadium

[Joemailman]

i've ben saying this for a few years now. we are not built to be a cold weather team. our style attack is better suited for a dome or in nice warm weather

home field advantage is a liability to this team the way we are built and led right now. we live and die by the long ball, we saw yesterday what happens when the long ball goes to shit

maybe its time to put a roof over the old stadium

Why didn't it bother the Giants? Giants beat the Packers with 2 long pass plays.

[red]

Why didn't it bother the Giants? Giants beat the Packers with 2 long pass plays.

giants don't live and die with the pass. they have a coach that knows the running game is important and they have a solid defense. something we all should know by know helps in the shitty cold weather. their players where use to the cold, they knew they had to wrap up the ball and concentrate a little harder on catches.

our guys probably spent the last two weeks in the hutson center with the heat on

[Freak Out]

Overconfidence has to be a factor. Then, distractions. Like making State Farm commercials.

Greed got the better of them. Greed and dreams of a career in Hollywood.

[sharpe1027]

Red, I have to disagree. The Giants all but gave up running and were ineffective when they did. Their run game sucked royally. They relied heavily on the passing game.

I also don't buy that cold weather was what killed our offense. It wasn't even all that cold. What happened earlier in the year when they dropped plenty of passes? This wasn't something that just happened in this one "somewhat" cold game, it was a season-long issue that finally caught up with them.

[Joemailman]

giants don't live and die with the pass. they have a coach that knows the running game is important and they have a solid defense. something we all should know by know helps in the shitty cold weather. their players where use to the cold, they knew they had to wrap up the ball and concentrate a little harder on catches.

our guys probably spent the last two weeks in the hutson center with the heat on

Actually, the Packers worked all week to duplicate the weather conditions in practice that they would face in the game. Again, it wasn't any colder yesterday than it was on New Year's Day when the Packers caught everything thrown near them. The Giants ran the ball more than the Packers because they had the lead all day. You may be right that the Giants had a better defense, but what the hell does that have to do with the weather? Stop making excuses. The Packers loss had nothing to do with the weather.