Was The KC Loss The End?

[Brandon494]

IMO the Giant were pretty much given the game against us and the 49ers, no way are they the 2010 Packers.

[Tarlam!]

The point is the 2011 Packers aren't the 2010 Packers. That is what sucks nutz's balls. It was the KC game that really showed it. I knew in my heart that team wasn't going deep. No heart. Can't win a championship without a heart. I've lost enough in my life to know the look.

[sharpe1027]

You thought the season was over at the we got our first lost of the season in week 15? I don't know about you but any thought of our season being over were soon erased from my mind after Rodgers 5 TD performance against the Bears and Fylnn 6 TD performance against the Lions. Too me the Giants didn't do anything special on defense, we just flat out laid an egg. Rodgers had a bad game but had plenty of time in the pocket, our receivers couldn't catch a cold, and guys like Kuhn and Grant who never fumble of course wait til the playoffs to do so.

+1

Replay that game 10 times and the Packers win 8 of them.

[Brandon494]

I'm sorry but your wrong if you think the team had no heart when they finished with the best regular season record in franchise history. Having an off day doesn't mean they had no heart and they reason why I think they came out flat against the Giants had some to do with the Philbin situation. Obvisouly they were also rusty taking a few weeks off but I do think it was hard to get up for a emotional game when someone close to them had just suffered a huge lost just a few days before.

[Scott Campbell]

The Giants got Atlanta at home.

That's true - I forgot about that. I keep thinking it should have been in ATL because the Falcons had the better record.

[Smidgeon]

+1

Replay that game 10 times and the Packers win 8 of them.

If I replay that game 10 time, I'm just a glutton for punishment. Watching it once was enough.

[hoosier]

The point is the 2011 Packers aren't the 2010 Packers. That is what sucks nutz's balls. It was the KC game that really showed it. I knew in my heart that team wasn't going deep. No heart. Can't win a championship without a heart. I've lost enough in my life to know the look.

The KC game was one moment in their season when the arrow was pointing down. The 2010 edition had their share of down moments also. Washington, Miami and at Detroit were the most obvious games. At Detroit (week 14) was the worst showing by a Green Bay offensive line that I have seen in a long time. Jennings had a terrible drop that turned what would have been a long TD into an interception. Flynn had an awful red zone interception. It was ugly. I frankly don't see the big difference that you're talking about. The only difference I see is that the 2010 version had its back against the wall for the last two weeks of the regular season, and then seemingly found a way to bottle that urgency and use it in the playoffs. So the flaw in the 2011 version was that the teams was too good, it didn't dig a hole for itself during the regular season and it allowed itself to grow soft. (PS: I'm not buying this story one bit. It is armchair analysis at its worst, and only seems to make sense because the Packers inexplicably lost to a team they should have beaten. If the Packers had beaten NY, we would be debating whether the 2011 version was superior to the 1961 and '65 versions.)

[denverYooper]

I started noticing some chinks in the armor during the Tampa game right before Thanksgiving.

Tampa was the first game that I remember the receivers getting beat on pretty good and it screwed with GB some. Tampa had a shitty year but they have some corners to pull that off. Jordy usually seems to be able to play that game and beat the other team at it without it getting in his head. I actually thought that was part of why 'ol Romeo put the APB out to the refs in the KC game -- to take GB's one physical receiver out of it. Come to think of it, one of the commentators mentioned that Fewell was the most concerned with Nelson. Maybe he knew he could throw everyone else off with a good bump. Even JPP was often tasked with giving Fin a shot at the line.

I hope Cobb gets a lot more snaps next year. Seems like he could make a killing in such a game.

[Tarlam!]

I get what you're sayin' Brando, but 15 wins does not a championship make. Neither does 18, as the Patsies showed. I think hoosier has it nailed, overall. I am just stating, loudly, I knew they were fucked after KC and I knew - IN MY HEART OF HEARTS - that the Giants would throw them out. I hate being right about it. I never thought the team really had it, but going undefeated seemed like motivation. Once that was gone, so was the season.

[Joemailman]

yup, an egg was laid. But I still think the loss of Jennings threw off their timing. Just give back that Rodgers-Jennings timing alone and maybe the Packers still win.

Yep. The Packers had 3 great chances for Rodgers to hit Jennings for a TD. First one Rodgers missed Jennings on what looked to me like a miscommunication. Second one Rodgers threw a perfect pass but Jennings couldn't haul it in on what would have been a tough, but not great catch. Third one Jennings was wide open but Rodgers was stripped of the ball. How often will Rodgers and Jennings go 0 for 3 in a situation like that? We need to find another team to play in home playoff games. Seem a bit snakebit against the Giants.

[Pugger]

I'm sorry but your wrong if you think the team had no heart when they finished with the best regular season record in franchise history. Having an off day doesn't mean they had no heart and they reason why I think they came out flat against the Giants had some to do with the Philbin situation. Obvisouly they were also rusty taking a few weeks off but I do think it was hard to get up for a emotional game when someone close to them had just suffered a huge lost just a few days before.

I'm listening right now to WDUZ the Fan on the Internet and they are talking to Sean Jones. He just said he wasn't surprised when the guys came out flat against the gnats. He said it is very difficult to get that right frame of mind and killer instinct when you go thru that kind of personal tragedy.

[mraynrand]

I'm listening right now to WDUZ the Fan on the Internet and they are talking to Sean Jones. He just said he wasn't surprised when the guys came out flat against the gnats. He said it is very difficult to get that right frame of mind and killer instinct when you go thru that kind of personal tragedy.

Were they interviewing him through the plastic barrier?

[Pugger]

Were they interviewing him through the plastic barrier?

What are you talking about?

[mraynrand]

We're talking about the former Packer DE, right?

http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2007/...ail-free-card/

[Pugger]

We're talking about the former Packer DE, right?

http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2007/...ail-free-card/

Yes, so I have no clue what mraynrand is talking about.