Originally posted by MJZiggy
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What Should The Packers Do With Driver?
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I like DD as well, but the fact of the matter is there is better upside & cheaper talent available which will help the Pack more, maybe even in the short run already. Borel, Gurley & Smithson will all have an extra year under their belt and who knows who Ted will add via the draft. Driver had a fantastic run here, but unfortunately for him I think TT will do what's right for the future of the team.
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Originally posted by Patler View PostIs it worth paying him $2 million just to bring him to camp?
This is relative to the amount of cap space available. If Driver has to be released so Finley and Wells can be resigned that's one thing, but if Finley and Wells can be resigned regardless of whether Driver is back at $2 million or not then it makes no difference. I just don't want to see Driver released simply for monetary reasons if it isn't absolutely necessary, because his cheaper replacement likely would be a downgrade at the bottom of the depth chart.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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The Giants didn't have a LB covering Driver, they were in zone coverage and the LB was covering that spot on the field. Like I said the guy still had 7 TDs on the year and was one of the few to show up against the Giants. It's pretty simple, if he accepts a paycut you keep him and if not then its time to move on.Last edited by Brandon494; 02-02-2012, 08:24 AM.
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I don't see how it is related to the space available. There is always another use for cap space. It never makes sense to waste millions of salary cap dollars on a player that you don't expect to play a big role on your team.Originally posted by Gunakor View PostThis is relative to the amount of cap space available. If Driver has to be released so Finley and Wells can be resigned that's one thing, but if Finley and Wells can be resigned regardless of whether Driver is back at $2 million or not then it makes no difference. I just don't want to see Driver released simply for monetary reasons if it isn't absolutely necessary, because his cheaper replacement likely would be a downgrade at the bottom of the depth chart.
The Packers went out of their way to keep both Gurley and Borel at the end of the season when other teams tried to sign them away from the Packers practice squad. They didn't do that just to have them on the PS for a few more weeks. They did that to have them compete for a roster spot in 2012, Driver's spot.
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That is the only way I see them bringing him to camp. I will be surprised if they give him the $2 million bonus in March. I could see them declining the bonus, then signing him to a contract with a value that he might get from another team.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostThe Giants didn't have a LB covering Driver, they were in zone coverage and the LB was covering that spot in the field. Like I said the guy still had 7 TDs on the year and was one of the few to show up against the Giants. It's pretty sure, if he accepts a paycut you keep him and if not then its time to move on.
On the other hand, it's clear that the Packers have a strong interest in both Gurley and Borel. I'm not sure they have much interest in Driver anymore at any price.
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There are usually underlying reasons for the excess numbers at a position, with reasons to keep each player to provide something that the others do not. For several years at FB, they had two guys that were prominent ST guys, and a young guy with a lot of potential as a heavy hitter blocking. This year at TE there were again reasons to keep each guy. Each had potential in an area that others seemed to lack. That may change in 2012, because Quarless (if he is ready) and both rookies seemed to pick up their blocking skills, making the value of Crabtree less important.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostAs far as Gurley taking Driver's spot I see no reason why we could not keep 6 WRs on the team. I mean kept 5 TEs this season and I don't think Quarless will be ready by the start of next season.
WR would seem to be a position for an "extra" roster spot in 2012, but it still might not include Driver. I could see them keeping both Gurley and Borel, which would give them 6 without Driver.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if TT pulled off a trade involving Jones. He could be the added value needed for a significant move up in the draft when combined with one or more of the Packers' own picks. He is a proven commodity with a reasonable contract for the next two years, and could be appealing to a number of teams. On the Packers he might be no more than #4 on their depth chart next year. Could be the way to get a premium defensive player in the draft.
I am looking forward to seeing what Borel and Gurley really have to offer. The Packers are obviously very interested in both.
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Ya, probably not. An unfortunate injury late in the season. An unfortunate injury at a critical time in the player's development. It will rob him of much of the value of off-season work, after having none following his rookie year. Tough start for his career.Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post....and I don't think Quarless will be ready by the start of next season.
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I credit a lot of the ST's improvement this year to the 5 te's. They have great st bodies and skill sets. This should be a factor in the decision as well.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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I think Gurley has a good shot to make the roster due to his knack for blocking kicks. You can't teach that height.Originally posted by Patler View PostI am looking forward to seeing what Borel and Gurley really have to offer. The Packers are obviously very interested in both.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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I think it had more to do with the new kickoff rule and Randall Cobb as a improvement over Swain at returner. Also with our offense we didn't have to punt as much.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostI credit a lot of the ST's improvement this year to the 5 te's. They have great st bodies and skill sets. This should be a factor in the decision as well.
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How about you tell him that you don't really need him but if he wants to play then their is spot for him, then when he understands this as you shoving him out the door, he retires. Then reality sets in for DD and he recognizes that he has more to offer and still has passion for the game, but you have his spot filled, you won't let him compete, but you can't imagine him playing for another franchise... See where I am going with this?
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Maybe. But we haven't had his retirement press conference yet, so much remains to be revealed.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostHow about you tell him that you don't really need him but if he wants to play then their is spot for him, then when he understands this as you shoving him out the door, he retires. Then reality sets in for DD and he recognizes that he has more to offer and still has passion for the game, but you have his spot filled, you won't let him compete, but you can't imagine him playing for another franchise... See where I am going with this?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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