T.J. Duckett

[HarveyWallbangers]

I probably could find multiple articles about how he is a bad fit. I'll look for them. So, you want to trade a 3rd round pick for a goalline RB? I'd rather see if Gado (strong kid) could do that. Besides, Favre is going for the TD record, you won't be seeing many goalline runs from the Pack.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Doesn't reference the scheme here, but here's the writeup on him on ESPN Insider. I think the "doesn't have great vision and fails to locate cutback lanes" would be a big concern.

"Runs with adequate forward body lean and almost always falls forward. Possesses adequate lateral mobility, flashes the ability to bounce runs outside after starting inside and shows a second gear in the open field. Does an adequate job of catching the football, is capable of running defensive backs over in the open field and can be productive after the catch. Lacks great instincts and doesn't read blocks well. Doesn't have great vision and frequently fails to locate cutback lanes. Fumbles too much considering hasn't been the primary ball carrier and doesn't practice great ball security. Doesn't explode out of cuts, doesn't run crisp short-to-intermediate routes and has problems creating separation working against man coverage. Lacks ideal recognition skills and has problems locating the soft spots in zone coverage. Overall, Duckett hasn't progressed as hoped and his lack of explosiveness limits his upside somewhat but he is a quality backup that is capable of stepping should the starter falter or sustain an injury."

[jack's smirking revenge]

I probably could find multiple articles about how he is a bad fit. I'll look for them. So, you want to trade a 3rd round pick for a goalline RB? I'd rather see if Gado (strong kid) could do that. Besides, Favre is going for the TD record, you won't be seeing many goalline runs from the Pack.

Yes because I firmly believe that we'll be back down to Herron again come midseason and could use the experience in our backfield.

As for the TD record, wouldn't that contradict the whole 55-45 (pass/run) or vice versa talk that has been thrown around the last few days? You make it sound like Favre's going to be sending rockets like its the 4th. The only way Favre makes his record is if we have an effective, stable and reliable ground game. Otherwise, he hits the INT record before the TD record.

tyler

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.draftdaddy.com/prospects/OLSchemes.cfm

"Zone blocking is a system that changes little from week to week, and uses faster, more athletic offensive linemen. In a zone blocking scheme, the entire unit slants, or moves in one direction on a given play. As the offensive line moves laterally, the defense tries to move with it, with each defensive linemen attempting to stay in his gap assignment. The offensive linemen will then block whatever defender is in his zone, be it a lineman, linebacker, or even a safety that has moved into the box. These O linemen most often use the cut back block, which basically means going low on the defender, and the hook block, getting under the defender's pads to get him off balance. Quickness is more important than brute power. On a running play, the RB looks for a gap to open, and often cuts back against the flow of the offensive line when it appears. Cutback RB's like [Warrick] Dunn do well in this system, while power RB's like [T.J.] Duckett tend to struggle more, not having the agility to take advantage of hitting an opening when it appears. In a power blocking man scheme, the RB runs to the hole that should be there, based on the play call. This tends to suit the power RB's better."

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+South/Atlanta/WWHI/default.htm

"We hear the Falcons fielded trade offers for RB T.J. Duckett from four teams on draft weekend. But the price wasn’t right — mostly sixth- or seventh-round picks were put on the table — so the Falcons held on to Warrick Dunn’s backup. Duckett has fallen out of favor in Atlanta because his straight-line running style doesn’t fit the team’s zone-blocking scheme, and the 254-pound Duckett isn’t the power runner that his immense size would suggest. But the biggest reason Duckett’s name has shown up on the trading block is because he’s a free agent after the season and Atlanta would like to receive compensation for its 2002 first-round pick, who won’t likely be re-signed. Duckett will face competition from rookie Jerious Norwood, a third-round pick. Norwood is a home-run hitter with blazing speed, and if he impresses the coaching staff in minicamp, the Falcons could still try to deal Duckett."

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/review/teams/atlantafalcons.html

Heading into the draft the team was expected to bring in a young running back since Warrick Dunn is getting older and T.J. Duckett is not a great fit for their offense so it didn't surprise anyone when they chose Jerious Norwood of Mississippi St. in the third round. Norwood is an explosive player with excellent speed and, unlike Duckett, will be a perfect fit for their offense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.fftoday.com/articles/stringer/06_take_08_10.htm

Keeping with the Broncos running back situation, don't expect the team to go after Falcons running back T.J. Duckett. Shanahan hasn't built his reputation on being stupid so he's not about to pick up a guy that hasn't been successful with a team that employs the same zone blocking scheme he uses.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Had enough?


So, not only is he coming off a terrible year, he doesn't fit the scheme and he'll be a FA after this season. Sounds like a guy I wouldn't give up more than a 6th round pick for.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Good points Harv. Thanks for posting.

tyler

[retailguy]

Had enough?


So, not only is he coming off a terrible year, he doesn't fit the scheme and he'll be a FA after this season. Sounds like a guy I wouldn't give up more than a 6th round pick for.

Nice posts Harvey...

I almost chocked when I read all the hoopla about Duckett. While he's got great prototype that's where it stops. The guy is hard to motivate, and a classic underachiever. Not at ALL what we need.

Just because he's got a "name" that you recognize doesn't mean he's a good football player. Cleditus Hunt had a "name", and that's about it..... Patience folks, PATIENCE....

[jack's smirking revenge]

Had enough?


So, not only is he coming off a terrible year, he doesn't fit the scheme and he'll be a FA after this season. Sounds like a guy I wouldn't give up more than a 6th round pick for.

Nice posts Harvey...

I almost chocked when I read all the hoopla about Duckett. While he's got great prototype that's where it stops. The guy is hard to motivate, and a classic underachiever. Not at ALL what we need.

Just because he's got a "name" that you recognize doesn't mean he's a good football player. Cleditus Hunt had a "name", and that's about it..... Patience folks, PATIENCE....

Umm....I think if you read this whole thread, you'd realize that he's more than a "name we all recognize" retail. I think those in support of the concept threw plenty enough stats around to justify a "look". Don't sell the rest of us short for having an opinion that he might be a decent pickup, just because we recognize his name. Some of us pay attention to more than just the Pack (I had Duckett on my fantasy football team for two years--2003 and 2004--and he scored me a fair amount of points because of his ability to find the endzone).

I recognized Ahman Green when he was in the doghouse in Seattle and was excited about him being traded to the Pack, even though he was known as an underachiever and a fumbler.

tyler

[woodbuck27]

My position today is one of relegation to accept what we have.

After hearing Brett Favre I am impressed with his confidence, though it seems guarded - yet realistic.

We received great news on Ahman Green yesterday and we can hope that he shows us that he is indeed recovered from a serious leg injury. Otherwise, we now have concerns about Samkon Gado ( reported out for some time yesterday) and will Najeh Davenport answer the call after his injury history?

We have also been concerned with Gado's hesitation and difficulty grasping the ZBS. He works very hard - he is very intelligent and dedicated. I trust he'll be fine, given what he showed us in 2005.

I see Noah Herron making OUR team, and William Henderson coming on very soon. Age may be a factor there but he compensates well, as a reliable pass option out of the backfield, and his blocking will improve. He's in solid shape for his age, and he plays this season because of those plus's.

On Offense I'll go with Brett Favre . The OL. Inexperienced and not yet at a solid NFL caliber, but maybe they'll jell sooner than we expect.

Favre said it:

They (the OL) have to get there.

Also - as Favre said. . .

Mike McCarthy and the OC and Offensive Coach's have to feature an offense that is based on the RUN - not passing the ball. That second option, would be folly.

Plus's:

Ahman Green's athletic ability and experience, along with his heart, determination and leadership.

Brett Favre's leadership and attitude appears solid. He's definitely on board for this season.

These are OUR men on Offense, and they will assist the inexperienced Coach's on OUR team to help prepare the OL - I trust. Then we have the experience and skills of Donald Driver and Bubba Franks and William Henderson, who's taken Sankon Gado under his wing, and will instill confidence in him.

We have hope and we have talent as well, and we wait for the rest to fall in place.

There isn't alot of sense, as it is now , to go out and bring in another RB, when we have capable players already at that position who full well understand the challenges with the Green Bay Packers. It's going to be one game at a time, and we hope to see growth and muturity on OUR Offense.

One game at a time. Put the BEST out there and fight like hell. Never give up this season on both sides of the ball.Will it be easy?

No ! We only can do OUR best, and that will be OK for me.

GO PACKERS! HOLD FAITH FOR 2006 and BEYOND !!

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Nice post jack.

[MadtownPacker]

Because of the fact Atlanta doesn't want him, I don't want him either.

Good thing Wolf didn't think like you back in the early 90s.

One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

[the_idle_threat]

Because of the fact Atlanta doesn't want him, I don't want him either.

Good thing Wolf didn't think like you back in the early 90s.

One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

That is exactly why I throw all my garbage into the neighbor's yard.