Redskins get 2nd pick. Flynn not a Redskin.

[MJZiggy]

So what happens if in the whole bounty debacle, the Redskins lose draft picks?

[sheepshead]

Holy Crap, we'll be talking about this for years.

[Patler]

Goofy coach sells team's future down the river to get QB?

Shanny the Rat = Dan Devine?

Seems pretty loony, doesn't it?

[Brandon494]

Very dumb move by the Skins, they have way too many holes on their team to be giving up that many high picks to move up 4 spots in the draft. I'm not mad though, living in Richmond VA I'm forced to watch every Skins game. At least RGIII will now make them bearable to watch.

[pbmax]

Some of the actual football people at Football Outsiders think RGIII is a perfect fit for a Shanahan offense, zone running, play action and moving pocket. So in a lot of ways, this move is logical, far more logical than Manning or keeping the Rex Cannon or John Beck.

I wonder how much Danny was bidding against himself in this, because the only other confirmed offers I have seen were a mention of a late bid by Cleveland on PFT? I expected prices for draft trades to increase because with the new CBA, those top picks are far less costly (in dollars) and risky, making them overall more attractive. But this is Herschel Walker level dumb.

[ND72]

I still see Flynn going to Miami or Seattle and Manning going to Kansas City.

[mraynrand]

If the Packers had to make this trade in '92 for Brett Favre, they would have lost Buckley, Simmons, George Teague, and Mark D'Onofrio - but would have gotten their second first round pick at #19 back.

Who here wouldn't have traded Buckley, Simmons, George Teague, and Mark D'Onofrio for Brett Favre any day of the week. If RGIII is an all time great, it's potentially a total bargain. But I still think it's crazy, cuz he'll probably blow out a knee in week III.

[Bretsky]

With three QB's about ready to get drafted in round one and Manning to be had for free it was terrible timing to lose Flynn this year. With that being said, TT wasn't going to franchise Flynn anyways unless anybody came with an offer...Sincerely...Captain Obvious

Manning will look good as a AZ Cardinal

[pbmax]

If the Packers had to make this trade in '92 for Brett Favre, they would have lost Buckley, Simmons, George Teague, and Mark D'Onofrio - but would have gotten their second first round pick at #19 back.

Who here wouldn't have traded Buckley, Simmons, George Teague, and Mark D'Onofrio for Brett Favre any day of the week. If RGIII is an all time great, it's potentially a total bargain. But I still think it's crazy, cuz he'll probably blow out a knee in week III.

The '96 defense looks a lot different than the league's number 1 unit without good 'ol crazy Wayne. Deal makes sense, but it's going to cost you somebody.

The detailed question is why, in the face of few competing offers and a franchise very eager to trade before FA started (and fewer teams available to bid) did the price go up so much?

[Fosco33]

Value Chart...

# 2 Pick - 2600

#6 - 1600
# 39 - 510
Next 2 years of 1st Round Picks (say average 16) - 1000 + 1000

So - 2600 for ~4100 (more/less)...

[Patler]

If the Packers had to make this trade in '92 for Brett Favre, they would have lost Buckley, Simmons, George Teague, and Mark D'Onofrio - but would have gotten their second first round pick at #19 back.

Who here wouldn't have traded Buckley, Simmons, George Teague, and Mark D'Onofrio for Brett Favre any day of the week. If RGIII is an all time great, it's potentially a total bargain. But I still think it's crazy, cuz he'll probably blow out a knee in week III.

I'm not sure you have the right players. The Redskins traded 2012 1st & 2nd, 2013 1st, 2014 1st, and reportedly up to 2 additional conditional picks. If the packers made that trade in '92, it would have included:

'92 1st - Buckley
'92 2nd - D'Onofrio
'93 1st - Simmons
'94 1st - Aaron Taylor (They traded their 1st and 3rd in '94 to move up for Taylor, without their 1st, no Taylor, but they would have still had #89 )

Teague was a pick obtained in '93 from the Cowboys, gotten for a bunch of the Packers picks that year, including two 2nds. That wouldn't have been affected by your theoretical trade


Simmons was a big factor in their Super Bowl run, and was later traded for the pick that brought Cory Bradford.

Taylor started in the Super Bowl, was lost to FA after five years, but figured into the large number of compensatory picks the Packers got in '99, which brought Hunt, Aaron Brooks,and Bidwell.

D'Onofrio looked like a very good player, with a starting job already as a rookie. Injuries ended his career, so sure, trading his rights would have been fine, but having him healthy would have been better.


With Favre taking over the starting job, would the conditional picks have been sacrificed too?
Who else might not have been a Packer? Probably a few lower round picks, but Wolf found a lot of contributors in the second halves of the drafts from '93-'95. (Brunnell, Doug Evans, Kuberski, Levens, Jervey, Timmerman, etc.) Some were from trades, but without the underlying picks that were used, the trades wouldn't have happened.

I think if the Packers had made a similar trade in '92, Their history for the next 10 years might have been very different.

[woodbuck27]

Value Chart...

# 2 Pick - 2600

#6 - 1600
# 39 - 510
Next 2 years of 1st Round Picks (say average 16) - 1000 + 1000

So - 2600 for ~4100 (more/less)...

Without considering all the intangibles then this was 'a BAD Deal' ... again ... by the Redskins.

[hoosier]

Value Chart...

# 2 Pick - 2600

#6 - 1600
# 39 - 510
Next 2 years of 1st Round Picks (say average 16) - 1000 + 1000

So - 2600 for ~4100 (more/less)...

2013 and 2014 1's should not be valued the same as this year's. Typically you see teams giving up next year's 1 for a 2 this year. So figure next year's is worth 500, 2014 is worth 250, and the Skins are giving up about 2850 in exchange for 2600. Not so bad if you look at it that way. Of course, you could also argue that the value chart cannot provide an accurate measure of worth when you're trading this year's picks for future picks.

[woodbuck27]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApS8_Xr2e3nMnvmd9JgibtiYvMJ_?slug=dw-wetzel_robert_griffin_trade_redskins_colts_rams0309

Rams win big in Robert Griffin III sweepstakes; Colts left to wonder what if they dealt No. 1 pick

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports 14 hours, 30 minutes ago

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[LP]

Sue me or bang my mom. See if i care.

Could you post the figures for your total net worth, and some pictures of your mom please? There are decisions to be made.