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I don't think the disagreement is that Wells is a quality center in the league. The issue is can you afford $7+ M on a center and keep Matthews, Rodgers, Jennings, and a LT (who commands Clifton money) and not have to start players who are making the league minimum.
Wouldn't it be great to put 4-5M in a ROLB opposite of Clay instead of Walden/Zombo/Jones? Well cap considerations have to be made. You find and pay two superstar OLB and you have less money to spend on the OL.
Remember starting Marquand Manuel and Bigby? How about Klemm and Whiticker when we were in cap hell under Sherman?But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Ted Thompson knows what he can afford to get Scott Wells back in the fold or if he really wants him.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostI don't think the disagreement is that Wells is a quality center in the league. The issue is can you afford $7+ M on a center and keep Matthews, Rodgers, Jennings, and a LT (who commands Clifton money) and not have to start players who are making the league minimum.
Wouldn't it be great to put 4-5M in a ROLB opposite of Clay instead of Walden/Zombo/Jones? Well cap considerations have to be made. You find and pay two superstar OLB and you have less money to spend on the OL.
Remember starting Marquand Manuel and Bigby? How about Klemm and Whiticker when we were in cap hell under Sherman?** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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Which stud olb is in free agency that would work for us? Until we get a good replacement center try to keep wells.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostI don't think the disagreement is that Wells is a quality center in the league. The issue is can you afford $7+ M on a center and keep Matthews, Rodgers, Jennings, and a LT (who commands Clifton money) and not have to start players who are making the league minimum.
Wouldn't it be great to put 4-5M in a ROLB opposite of Clay instead of Walden/Zombo/Jones? Well cap considerations have to be made. You find and pay two superstar OLB and you have less money to spend on the OL.
Also PB, how dare you use facts I had forgotten in this argument! Seriously though aside from Meyer do you see a good replacement (and I'm not sold on meyer) that would work from day 1?All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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I will reprase that. TT knows his bottom line on what Scott Wells should cost the Packers. I'm sure TT is very concerned over the possibility of having to replace Scott Wells. TT wants him at a particular ceiling price. We're looking at two sides in terms of a bottom line (and payment for services0. We must also consider that Scott Wells for any reason simply wants to move elsewhere.Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post"if he really wants him" kinda of misses ThunderDan's point, which is: if he is willing to make sacrifices elsewhere.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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[QUOTE=Upnorth;657042]Which stud olb is in free agency that would work for us? Until we get a good replacement center try to keep wells.
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Just an example. No specific player in mind.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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That is kind of the thing though..will we find a OLB in FA for that kind of money that would be a big enough upgrade to justify losing a center that is still in his prime, playing well and knows our system?Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostJust an example. No specific player in mind.
I agree our defense needs improvement..I think we all will. But I don't want to mortgage a great offense unless we are truly upgrading our defense enough to make up for it.
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Well then how about JFin who is now on the books for 6+M. His pay increase is the same as signing a $5M OLB.Originally posted by TheRaven View PostThat is kind of the thing though..will we find a OLB in FA for that kind of money that would be a big enough upgrade to justify losing a center that is still in his prime, playing well and knows our system?
I agree our defense needs improvement..I think we all will. But I don't want to mortgage a great offense unless we are truly upgrading our defense enough to make up for it.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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There was a pro football focus article on the FA centers and I remember McGinn had reports on them as well. Beside the Texans guy (Myers) who was the unanimous #1, there was a lot of disagreement.Originally posted by Upnorth View PostWhich stud olb is in free agency that would work for us? Until we get a good replacement center try to keep wells.
Also PB, how dare you use facts I had forgotten in this argument! Seriously though aside from Meyer do you see a good replacement (and I'm not sold on meyer) that would work from day 1?
So I do not have a suggestion as to who should be signed, but I take from all the bodies available that many are interchangeable and that you simply need to find a fit with your style. Also, with all the teams dumping rather than signing, I think a number of centers are going to disappointed in their numbers. Too many buyers and sellers will drop the price below the top end I believe.
PFT is reporting Wells has left Tennessee and is headed to St. Louis.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Scott Wells is replaced a lot easier than Matthews, Finley, Jennings, Rodgers etc. That is why they can't tie up a boat load of cash on him. Just take a look around the league, a bunch of good high priced centers have been released. That's because it is hard to justify tying up that much of your cap on a center. I know they are important, but Meyers can do the job just as well as Wells. So could three or four guys out there. Im way more concerned about our crappy defense than who will be the center next year.
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So he's making the tour. Okay. I hope that tour ends up back in GB, where he signs at a reasonable price...
But after reading about Megatron's contract, maybe Ted's lowering his offer to Wells, knowing that GJ is up next year."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I can see it now: Wells walks and signs a relatively cheap deal with Philadelphia. Then Green Bay's offense gives up a bunch of sacks and becomes the 2nd worst statistically. However, Clay Matthews almost singlehandedly keeps Green Bay in games with huge plays every week and the defense rises to become the cream of the crop. We all sit around and talk about how Wells was a key cog in the offense but that hey, he's still giving up some sacks in Philly so he wasn't the whole reason.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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