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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
    Would you do it if it means you lose Greg Jennings after next season?

    Not a fair assumption to make. In a couple yrs the cap will also be much higher, and we can franchise GJ if need be. With that being said, this dude will cost too much money for TT to pursue. He's be a great fit though but he's in that area of his career where he will not come cheap, nor should he
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
      Would you do it if it means you lose Greg Jennings after next season?
      We have Jennings locked up for the next 2 years, and by then the cap will be up another 20ish million. I think we might have some space, especially if we could get a 4 yr 16 mil contract for Wimbley. I just doubt he goes for that little.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
        We have Jennings locked up for the next 2 years, and by then the cap will be up another 20ish million. I think we might have some space, especially if we could get a 4 yr 16 mil contract for Wimbley. I just doubt he goes for that little.
        Jennings is a FA after this year.
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        • #19
          I'm hoping TT makes a run at him... even if we signed a reasonable front seven FA, we'd still need to target another front seven guy early in the draft just to be able to field something resembling an NFL calibur defense.

          That said, Ted is Ted... we're not getting any significant FA help - gravity and the draft.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Jennings is a FA after this year.
            Yes, and any big signings that Ted makes now will make it more difficult to retain Jennings. While I'd love to land Langford and Wimbley, if we did so it's almost certain that Greg Jennings would end up elsewhere.

            Surely other people have noticed the huge $$$ that high end WRs are getting these days...
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Jennings is a FA after this year.
              Not only that, Rodgers, Matthews, and Raji are all set for extensions in the next year. Rodgers alone will probably command most of the increase in the salary cap. He's going to get $18M/year. All you have to is look at what the Colts had to do around Peyton Manning. Keep a corps group, let some guys go, and play little in FA.
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              • #22
                Wimbley didn't restructure because it made more sense for him to be paid $6.5 mil to be released. That doesn't necessarily mean he'll be unreasonable in Free Agency. In fact, I'm guessing he wanted out of the rebuilding project that just started this season in Oakland. He's 28.

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                • #23
                  I just don't buy the notion that if we sign free agents now, we won't be able to in the future. You never know what next season will bring. We can't just sit on our hands. TT needs to improve this team. We are so close to winning another super bowl, but we need a couple more pieces. I only see this team losing pieces since the super bowl win, not adding any. Jenkins and Wells. What was TT's plan with Jenkins? Neal? That blew up in his face. What is his plan with Wells? EDS? God, I hope not. What is his plan for the defense? I hope something, cause it was god awful last year. Free agency isn't the end all, be all, but it is a tool that teams should use to improve themselves. Not a virius to be avoided at all cost.

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                  • #24
                    Next season is when the new cap goes into effect. From a competitive standpoint, it makes since to extend some of our players now as opposed to next year. Perhaps we are working on an extension for Jennings. It would be nice to get that done before the season.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                      Next season is when the new cap goes into effect. From a competitive standpoint, it makes since to extend some of our players now as opposed to next year. Perhaps we are working on an extension for Jennings. It would be nice to get that done before the season.
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                      • #26
                        I still don't thin Jennings is elite. I would rather have a Johnson or Fitzgerald than him. I think he is good just not elite.

                        The defense took a step back last year, no reason it can't take a step forward this year. Though Wist will have you believe we have a pop warner defense we are only one year removed from a title and are coming off a 15-1 season. I would love to see a "name" fa come in here but thus far TT doesn't want to put us in cap Hell. I would imagine we go the Patriots route and sign an older cap casualty on the d line.
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                        • #27
                          Jennings is better than Vincent Jackson, who just got 5/55 so Jennings will probably see around that in FA if it comes to it. Elite or not. He's a top-5 receiver.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                            Next season is when the new cap goes into effect. From a competitive standpoint, it makes since to extend some of our players now as opposed to next year. Perhaps we are working on an extension for Jennings. It would be nice to get that done before the season.
                            Nope, the cap won't go up much next season. When it goes up is 2014 with the new TV contract money. That corresponds' with Finley's FA year not Jennings. Jennings we have to fit under a 125m or so cap.
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                            • #29
                              Can you even imagine how much Rodgers is going to make next time around?

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                              • #30
                                These money questions are PRECISELY why you don't retain Driver this year. He costs too much (prob $2M even if restructured) and offers nothing more than Cobb as a #4 WR (arguably less, because Cobb is also a dynamic return man). The NFL is a business, and the good business sense says you cut ties with the old guy a year too early and use the spot to develop a replacement while you still have a stud group of receivers to work with otherwise.

                                You need to free up as much cash as possible to keep the good young talent on the team...and probably will still need to make a tough decision on someone that we will have to let walk over the next 2-3 years. That is why Ted is going to avoid free agency and build in the draft...where he can replenish the talent pool at a cheap cost to the team. Woodson will be a prime renegotiation target after this year, which will probably net us $3-4M. Raji will likely have his contract reworked by the end of this season as well, to help push more money out into 2014 and beyond. That should give us plenty of room to resign Jennings and Lang.
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